Network ethernet switch with a one-box server/streamer/renderer - recommended?

spiritofmusic

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Yes, and they actively advise against adding a specialist linear power supply LPS to it.
 

nonesup

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That's right, and my experience says otherwise.
 
#23
Indeed. I found a good LPS lift sound quality in all cases:
1. Mac Mini 12v
2. External Firewire drive
3. Router
Different subject but my PS Audio P10 also beats pure mains feed on both my DAC, server and power amplifier.
 

spiritofmusic

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Well, my debate is one box streamer/render and dac (one ethernet and usb cbl) ie Innuos Zenith.
Or four boxes eg SonicTransporter i5 w Sonore MicroRendu, audiophile switch like AqVox, SoTM or forthcoming Uptone Audio EtherRegen, LPS to power all these (three ethernet, one usb, three DC leads).
My instinct is now Zenith after the info Ngamountains here kindly provided me, and it seems like a specialist switch could be a very nice cost effective upgrade once I get my feet under the table and take to streaming.
So, one-box Zenith solution on Day One becomes a three-box one 6 months in with a switch plus LPS upgrade.
 
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Steve, specialist switch would be a natural first area to upgrade upon getting settled into streaming after a while. I am not going down the pricey dac route, for the usual reasons, but the quality add-on switch, w specialist LPS could be fruitful. I'll certainly consider SoTM
One really good affordable DAC is the Metrum line. R2R with nice features. No reclocking on the S/PDIF input, so it can benefit from low-jitter sources.

Steve N.
 

the sound of Tao

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Well, my debate is one box streamer/render and dac (one ethernet and usb cbl) ie Innuos Zenith.
Or four boxes eg SonicTransporter i5 w Sonore MicroRendu, audiophile switch like AqVox, SoTM or forthcoming Uptone Audio EtherRegen, LPS to power all these (three ethernet, one usb, three DC leads).
My instinct is now Zenith after the info Ngamountains here kindly provided me, and it seems like a specialist switch could be a very nice cost effective upgrade once I get my feet under the table and take to streaming.
So, one-box Zenith solution on Day One becomes a three-box one 6 months in with a switch plus LPS upgrade.
Marc, great to see you about to take the dive and plunge into the great music adventure that is the stream... imo yes a good switch does potentially add to better outcome. The Sotm switch wasn’t at all inexpensive but it is a very nice step towards an even more natural flow with more realistic timbre and the other area where it was great was that it brings a nice shot of more lifelike full blooded dynamics (think the quality of supply comes in here as well).

However while I think the Innuos is the right choice in this and you definitely don’t need the switch but agree would be worth exploring... tho to clarify you don’t need a crazy multi box approach with Sotm and can just use a Sotm ultra and use the USB in to access an external hard or SSD drive. Not going too crazy on the box count I ultimately found a good balance to be just a Sotm switch and Sotm ultra renderer both powered on high quality linear supplies with good electrical and mechanical isolation and better cables (Shunyata Triton and Typhon, Stillpoints and Wireworld Platinum eclipse and platinum starlight cables)... you can easily approach your setup with your preferred Sablon cables and or Stacore or Daizas and build in this infrastructure through time as your experience of it validates it for you and if you find it gives your music experience even greater breadth. That’s been the greatest takeaway for me. Greater exposure to the recorded treasure.
 
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Yes, and they actively advise against adding a specialist linear power supply LPS to it.
That's only because there are so very few LPS that are fast enough responding for digital.
 
#29
Nonesup, the Uptone switch has been coming for 12 months now, no sign as yet.

Any firm news, launch date or price you know?
I may soon be the distributor for SOtM for Spain & Portugal, probably after Munich High End. They made some superb (and affordable) switches and routers, streamers and servers. They also have a nice LPS for the same price at the smaller LPS from Uptone, and it has more power output. It starts at 500 USD.
sPS-500_F.jpg

And some nice switches. They start at 800 USD
sNH-10G_8.jpg

https://www.sotm-audio.com/sotmwp/english/portfolio-item/snh-10g/
 
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asiufy

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Yup. That combo's awesome. Get Stravros to put a word clock output in your AC DAC, and you're all set.
 

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Also Nonesup, what do you think of the Telegärtner M12 Switch Gold?

Https://jcat.eu > featured > m12-switch-gold
This is actually very good, but also very expensive, you can probably buy 5 or 6 Sotm switches for that. M12 is for industrial applications in harsh environments, it can operate in heavy vibration and rfi/emi polluted environments. There are more manufacturers offering products of this type, all costly.
 
#33
What is meant by the definition of fast, translated sonically as what it brings and what to listen for short of using lab test equipment to determine?
Fast means di/dt or transient high-frequency currents do not cause a droop in the supply voltage. Fast regulation response is needed. You need test equipment that puts a high transient load on the supply to measure this.

Listening difference is that the detail and imaging will be compromised when using a slow supply. This is primarily because the jitter added by the circuits will be much higher due to the unstable voltage.

Steve N.
 

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