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I am ready to declare the Tung Sol 6SN7 (black glass round plates variant) a better sounding driver tube in my setup than the 5687 or 6H30.

The 6SN7 gives the music more weight than the others while maintaining the proper tonality. The bass is deeper and fuller.
Tried those TS VT99?
 

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I am ready to declare the Tung Sol 6SN7 (black glass round plates variant) a better sounding driver tube in my setup than the 5687 or 6H30.

The 6SN7 gives the music more weight than the others while maintaining the proper tonality. The bass is deeper and fuller.
Is your Tak 274B in that you’re making that declaration.
 

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You won’t know it is cheap until the auction is over!

Is that engraved? Looks like it is printed on.
I believe it is the engraved version:):) looks indented into the bakelite
 

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I believe it is the engraved version:):) looks indented into the bakelite

Hard to tell from the pictures. The description is also unusual "Between the era of engraved base and Print base with date code marked."
 

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If the vt99 in the H dac is like a few other devices I used them in it’s might be as follows
the vt99 is a warm of neutral general sound
it has less gain then many others
so what is does very well it’s magic so to speak
is smooth ness in a very musical way. when I use musical as a term it’s not warm tone nor speed. To me it’s harmonics at each note that give a longer note decay
less leading edge but continues after first strike

I hate the term smooth to me it means less attack and while I used smooth on the vt99 it’s only heard on leading edge of a given strike.
i love Reading this lampi tube rolling thread to rehash various tube sound

as a side note my tube rolling began with lampi and woo audio
Winson on here got me hooked
frank I gave me many choices in my woo amps
 
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If the vt99 in the H dac is like a few other devices I used them in it’s might be as follows
the vt99 is a warm of neutral general sound
it has less gain then many others
so what is does very well it’s magic so to speak
is smooth ness in a very musical way. when I use musical as a term it’s not warm tone nor speed. To me it’s harmonics at each note that give a longer note decay
less leading edge but continues after first strike

I hate the term smooth to me it means less attack and while I used smooth on the vt99 it’s only heard on leading edge of a given strike.
i love Reading this lampi tube rolling thread to rehash various tube sound

as a side note my tube rolling began with lampi and woo audio
Winson on here got me hooked
frank I gave me many choices in my woo amps

Doesn't the 6F8G have a higher gain than the 6SN7? I think it is close to double if my memory serves me correctly.
 

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I don’t know if any of these tubes can be used in the H dac but I have notes on these
Mullard Japan 6sn7 gtb itt same
is very clean / neutral fast sounding has sparkle st top

marconi label L63 grey bottle
high detailed sound
close to neutral
very balanced over all

Hytron 6C5-gt
clean good weight and details

just a few
 

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Doesn't the 6F8G have a higher gain than the 6SN7? I think it is close to double if my memory serves me correctly.
It may be but I’m using the vt99 it had
less gain in woo amps
I think the 6sn7 gt had more gain
but this is memory
 

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Ok I looked up my amps used
the wa5 called for a 6sn7
min this amp it did not have less gain can’t say If more

in my woo Wes they called for a 6sl7 in this amp gain was lower with vt99.
in trying many drivers
there sound varies wildly
so the tube topology of the device really seems to effect the sound greatly
 

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Ok I looked up my amps used
the wa5 called for a 6sn7
min this amp it did not have less gain can’t say If more

in my woo Wes they called for a 6sl7 in this amp gain was lower with vt99.
in trying many drivers
there sound varies wildly
so the tube topology of the device really seems to effect the sound greatly

Yes. The 6SL7/ECC35 gain is multiples of a 6SN7. Great tube.
 
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I use Sophia tubes best I found for the Wes amp
tubes are cool but a bit confusing at times
 

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What lampi has given you guys is the most adaptive
digital to date and all SS dacs should be worried
while digital is not analog the H dac I heard was non discerning to me at axpona. I’ve never felt or heard a direct compare
like this Before
and the axpona room I felt had good vinyl to me.
 

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I think I am also ready to commit to the EL51s over the GEC KT88s. I do need to put the TS170s back in to compare them to the EL51s.

So many tube options. You can’t go wrong. This is all fine tuning.

This difference is a little more recording dependent. If the recording is a tad hot then the GEC KT88s do a better job at taming it.
 
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You can’t go wrong. This is all fine tuning

I totally agree. It comes down to system preferences as well as your room and your ears. It is fine tuning for sure
 
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I think I am also ready to commit to the EL51s over the GEC KT88s. I do need to put the TS170s back in to compare them to the EL51s.

So many tube options. You can’t go wrong. This is all fine tuning.

This difference is a little more recording dependent. If the recording is a tad hot then the GEC KT88s do a better job at taming it.
I'm really glad EL51s do the job properly...wondering what EL156 will do
 

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