Bruce B
WBF Founding Member, Pro Audio Production Member
Well this is the same as Benchmark and Weiss. They don't believe in DSD though it was added in their DAC's.
JRiver MC Version 18
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Well this is the same as Benchmark and Weiss. They don't believe in DSD though it was added in their DAC's.
Bruce B
WBF Founding Member, Pro Audio Production Member
Our next mission is to convert Mark Waldrep and Dan Lavry!!
To convert them to DSD you would have to digitize them first
Well these are new features being added i.e the DAC is now able to play a format that it otherwise couldn't, whatever about the SQ of this new format, it's added functionality.
Jriver has added nothing extra to SQ(according to them) or usability by the use of memory playback, only the operational/technical downsides of this addition!
Does this make sense to you?
Bruce B
WBF Founding Member, Pro Audio Production Member
Well according to Benchmark and Weiss, DSD adds nothing to the SQ and actually "degrades" the SQ.
Indeed, but now their DACs can actually play DSD - before they couldn't - it's new functionality, right!
So what is Jriver's memory playback adding to the functionality - they say it adds nothing to SQ?
They added something the customers seemed to want. So your issue is with the fact that they are too open about doubting it makes a difference?
The way they see it (correctly in my opinion), they are forced to add a feature they feel adds no value strictly for marketing reasons, because other vendors have convinced the market this is a value added feature. I agree it does not meat the snake-oil criteria though.
No, I just think it is hilarious so I suppose they have added something, as you said - hilarity,
"forced to add" is a bit over the top, no? There are many other features that their customers want & they chose which to implement & waste their effort on in deference to other features
It sort of negates the snake oil part if they tell you upfront that it is somewhere between useless and detrimental, John. What I think jriver is saying, a bit more softly than I will, is that memory play is snake oil...we don't recommend that you use it, we think it actually causes performance problems, but so many audiophiles seem to have drunk this particular flavor of kool aide that we stuck it in here, with a strong warning labe., to keep from losing the business.
Not great marketing, but brutally honest.
Tim
To be consistent then they really should have a warning flash on the screen that "Memory play is a hoax & any user who tries it will not be supported by JRiver"
Hilarious!
I downloaded mc19. Works great. When will the new dynamic range analysis be available so I can beat Bruce Brown over the head with it.
Bruce B
WBF Founding Member, Pro Audio Production Member
When will the new dynamic range analysis be available so I can beat Bruce Brown over the head with it.
Next you'll be telling me you have synesthesia!
I know it was a cheap shot, but I had to take it.
Next you'll be telling me you have synesthesia!
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Jkeny,
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Jkeny,
I responded to all of your arguments without taking my mind off Radiohead's MOST awesome album which I am listening to right now. You know which one it is?
We started an audio only Linux port a few months ago. More details are here:
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