I filled this out just as you showed. I plan to use the analog out primarily, but I noted at the very bottom of the page sent this AM that a USB out will also be included in all units. This should allow us to compare Olympus to our recall of the USB/Extreme we have lived with for a while. I do have MSB Reference/Dig. Director, and will want to give that a good try when the MSB output becomes available
Introducing Olympus & Olympus I/O - A new perspective on modern music playback
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Dear Taiko Team,
“Please note, that choosing no storage has a slight edge on ultimate sound quality, if used with a Taiko Router/Switch/DCD. That is true for both streaming, as well as playing from a NAS.”
Well, I guess now it is a matter of finding the best sounding (and silent) NAS.
1. Synology DS1522+, Synology DS923+ are two options. Any other better sounding option?
2. Does using a linear power supply (and top quality DC cable) for the NAS improve the sound?
3. Does using a top notch ethernet cable for connecting the NAS to the Taiko router improve the sound?
Thanks
“Please note, that choosing no storage has a slight edge on ultimate sound quality, if used with a Taiko Router/Switch/DCD. That is true for both streaming, as well as playing from a NAS.”
Well, I guess now it is a matter of finding the best sounding (and silent) NAS.
1. Synology DS1522+, Synology DS923+ are two options. Any other better sounding option?
2. Does using a linear power supply (and top quality DC cable) for the NAS improve the sound?
3. Does using a top notch ethernet cable for connecting the NAS to the Taiko router improve the sound?
Thanks
I believe Emile advocates a low powered one for various reasons including the fact that you can power it with the DCD. I bought this one since it is only 13-14 watts.
Would the DCD need some sort of specific more powerful high end power supply to handle the load of the Taiko switch and router and a 13-14 watt NAS drive such as the one in the preceding post #1966?
I remember Emile said he can provide us an adaptor so we can transfer the files from our old SSD drive in Extreme to the new drive. Can we include that in the order form?
The load of the router, switch and low powered NAS is pretty low, maybe 2-3 amps.
I've owned a very similar Synology NAS for years. In fact, my music library is already on it. It's noisy. In addition to the fan, the read/writes and housekeeping can be long and loud.However, I'm using mechanical drives. SSD might be quieter. In addition, transferring data is slow, irrespective of the source or whether you use SSD. Overall, I believe the SQ of networked drives connecting to the router will be similar. It's the heat, noise, write speed and power signature I'm focusing on. Since I'm not using the drive for failover (I'll have other backups) I'm thinking a single bay SSD NAS.
I assume you mean mechanically noisy. This has been in my room for a month and is 8 feet from the seating position and I never hear it. The fan never goes on in quiet mode. One can configure things to get the drives to spin less. I am not sure why the transfer speed is important since you only have to move all your music once.
Thanks for insight. Yes, the noise is mostly from the read/writes of the mechanical drives. Which is why I mentioned SSD drives would be a better choice. As for configuration, there's only so much one can do regarding limiting read/writes. Particularly when the data is on multiple drives. As for the transfer speed, it can take days to move TBs of data to the unit, significant even once. Also, adding new music to it, particularly uncompressed hi-res, will take a while.
The issue with SSDs is that they expensive and I think the largest one one can buy is 7 TB which limits a 2 bay NAS to less than 14 TB. I have 2 x 8 TB drives at RAID0 which equates to about 14 TB of usable space. I transferred about 9 TB overnight when I bought it and regularly add new file sets but probably never more than 3-4 TB at time. I have 5 NAS on my network. The DS224 isn't the fastest but none of them boxes are fast as compared to adding files to the Extreme internal drives. On a daily basis it never takes more than 5 minutes.
Mine is an older unit than yours, perhaps that's he reason for the slower ymtransfer speed and increase file churn.
My order is for an Olympus with both the analog (RCA) XDMI output and the Lampizator XDMI to my Horizon with XDMI input. What is the significance of specifying either the analog XDMI or the Lampizator XDMI as the pre-mounted vs. the XDMI digital output option on the order form?
It means that you must choose which one you want to have, already mounted, when it arrives at your home.
Then, to listen to the other option, you’ll have to change the daughter card.
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Both the USB and network cards as used in the Extreme actually don’t work well with the Olympus. The Extreme and the Olympus are very different designs.
We have changed the network card design to work well with the Olympus. It looks close to the same, but it is a different card. This is why you return the one you use with the Extreme if you trade in your Extreme.
For the USB card we’ve come up with 2 designs, one to use with the Olympus, and another to use with the I/O. The Olympus server variant is not removable. The I/O USB card is removable. Again neither of these are interchangeable with the Extreme’s USB card hence you return that as well in case of a trade in scenario.
In case you’re wondering why the USB output options of the Olympus server and I/O are different, the Olympus server variant doesn’t degrade SQ just by being present, neither does the one in the I/O but in that case by being situated in an external chassis running off it’s own BPS.
I’d say about a 20-25% degradation. Aka huge. Again the Olympus is an entirely different design than the Extreme, it has to be as it’s more or less directly in your analogue signal path which changes everything.
Input Please! Lots of navigational parts to all of this. I understand that NAS is the preferred storage. What’s the general consensus in regard to having some storage onboard with the Olympus? It’s been said NAS is slightly better. Not sure how to assess that. A bit vague! Are some of you still getting some storage capabilities even with the intentions of using a NAS. Or is this not necessary and a waste? Much of this gets a bit frustrating for those of us who are not as skilled in some of these areas…
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