The Extreme (and Olympus) are computers. The music files in the Extreme reside on a hard drive. You can copy and paste any files from the Extreme hard drive to any other drive you can see in Windows File Explorer.
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The Extreme (and Olympus) are computers. The music files in the Extreme reside on a hard drive. You can copy and paste any files from the Extreme hard drive to any other drive you can see in Windows File Explorer.
Emile will have to explain the adapter but you should have your music files backed up on another drive. If you don’t and the internal drives fail your music will be lost.
It is the reverse of how you add music to your Extreme (or Olympus) drives. I assume you have done that?
Yes, I have several 5TB USB3 external drives and one 8TB AC-powered external drive. Back up periodically (or need to remind myself to do so) in 2 copies of each 5TBs (so far, I divide composers from A to L for HD1, and from M to Z to HD2). Then what is saved in the Olympus internal HD (contemplated to be 8TB) would be the core of my much bigger library (including loads of unprocessed music files), to be backed by that 8TB powered HD. The back up this way is obviously not in real time, which would involve the use of an NAS/RAID (of which I know little). There are innumerable risks in life - lightning strikes, road accidents, heart attacks.... To think too hard or too much about them would hamper living and listening. Want to keep life simple for simpletons like myself.
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And it wouldn’t if it was a connection from the Olympus to a separate box which then connected to the DAC - I’m only guessing here but would save people returning DAC’s or trying to deal with retro-fitting inside DACs
But the big question is how “that box” is connected to the Aries Cerat DAC. Spdif Emile said no. USB would be going against the XDMI philosophy. Another new entry would involve sending the DAC to Aries Cerat. Intriguing!
I2S is quite capable.
If that's the case there will be no conversion.
USB, AES and Spidf needs conversion from i2s.
I know it doesn't phase a techno competent individual such as yourself, but all operational commands in the Extreme are Windows based.. Since I'm a MAC guy, that's yet another worrisome thing for me. Believe me, cloning a gene is easier!
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To those who have deep experience of such matters, could you please share your knowledge. Emile informed that certain kinds of hard drive (apparently solid-state ones) may die if not powered on regularly. Other than the solid-state HD in the coming Olympus, all my hard drives are magnetic (USB-powered 5TB bricks and an AC-powered 8TB larger brick). If I leave them on all the time (I can learn to use that 8TB to do real-time backup of Olympus' internal hard drive in a NAS setup), will such magnetic HDs die sooner or live longer?
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@marty I would feel the same way if it was Mac-based. I am making a copy of my Extreme music database as I write this post.
I bought a 5TB WDRed USB drive and connected it to the Extreme using the USB3 cable that came with the device. Because it was easiest to reach, I used the Lan2 "group" of ports.
I then used the VNC viewer on my laptop to remotely connect to the Extreme. This was/is an existing tool used to get into the Extreme. You may have used it before, or the Taiko guys would have.
Then I navigate using my mouse, which moves the cursor on the Extreme.
In summary, I just connected a USB external drive to a computer (Extreme). The VNC is just a remote control trick. You're just finding your music folder and finding your USB device, and executing the copy command.
Could be a small hitch: you may have to add the driver for the USB drive to the Extreme to make it happen. You will get a prompt to follow...click on the Windows option and in a few seconds, it will download and be ready.
Then copy from "music" to USB drive. I am not the best person to outline this here, but perhaps it will stimulate those with deeper knowledge/ability in this area. Good Luck!
I bought a 5TB WDRed USB drive and connected it to the Extreme using the USB3 cable that came with the device. Because it was easiest to reach, I used the Lan2 "group" of ports.
I then used the VNC viewer on my laptop to remotely connect to the Extreme. This was/is an existing tool used to get into the Extreme. You may have used it before, or the Taiko guys would have.
Then I navigate using my mouse, which moves the cursor on the Extreme.
In summary, I just connected a USB external drive to a computer (Extreme). The VNC is just a remote control trick. You're just finding your music folder and finding your USB device, and executing the copy command.
Could be a small hitch: you may have to add the driver for the USB drive to the Extreme to make it happen. You will get a prompt to follow...click on the Windows option and in a few seconds, it will download and be ready.
Then copy from "music" to USB drive. I am not the best person to outline this here, but perhaps it will stimulate those with deeper knowledge/ability in this area. Good Luck!
If you're using a NAS, that will be on all the time. That said, any drive, HDD or SSD can die or get corrupted. I might suggest you chose the type of drive you use based upon other factors, e.g., cost, noise, and convenience, and make sure you back up. I back up on portable USB SSDs, a NAS that uses HDD, and AWS Glacier. The latter is inexpensive - a few dollars a month for multiple terabytes, protects you in case of cstastrophe, and has an overwhelminly low chance of being lost. The negative is that should you need to retrieve the data it's slow and usage isn't always intuitive. However, you have peace of mind should anything happen to your home.
Just an FYI. The USB ports do not correspond to the Lan1 and Lan2. That is just for the ethernet ports.
Everything else you explained is right.
...yes, thanks D. That's why I wrote: group...that collection of connections...but yes: use the USB, of course. Thank you, because these things need to be explicit, or they can be frustrating.
I will say, however, the USB thumb drives I've used have been by far the least reliable. I don't know if that is just bad luck on my part or a more common phenomenon. I've had much better luck with internal and portable hard drives, both SSD and HDD.
Thanks for the AWS Glacier information. The cheapest is $0.00099 per GB, so for 10TB, the cost would be roughly $10 per month (albeit with glacially slow retrieval, pun intended)? That may be a good option.
As for the purported 1-2% improvement of streaming over local playback, I am curious about the following: the path of at least 2 ethernet ports, the innards of a router and the kind of ethernet and DAC cables used, the length of the cables - none of them is 100% transparent and I suspect that they too detract a bit of SQ (just like the addition of an internal hard drive, which should have much shorter distance to the data processing heart of Olympus). Should the router be ideally battery powered? (I could find one who has deep knowledge of battery power to produce a 2-unit battery power to power Router and Switch individually, which will be better than DCD or any LPS.) The kind of ethernet and DAC cables used should matter too (as our experience with cables in general). And the kind of router (Taiko vs another kind) used. Plus my continued belief in the superiority of WAV over FLAC (especially the most compressed kind). I am not sure streaming would be indeed 1-2% better to MY ears (if I could even hear such teeny difference). We all have different ears.
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Me too, Marty. But you don't need to know Windows commands to move your music files around. Drag and drop still works.
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