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robertG

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I am RobertG. G for Gaboury. I am designer of Gemme Audio loudspeakers. I started playing with loudspeakers at 8 when I dismantled a pocket radio my uncle gave me for my birthday. It was battery powered with a blue plastic case. I tought the speaker would sound better if it was liberated from the case. It was not really better, so I decided to persue my work by doing the same thing to my father's Grundig stereo.

I was rewarded with a slap behind the head... The week after the Grundig eperiment, I got my first allowance, which was entirely spent at the RadioShack store at the end of the street. This would continue for quite some time.

Fast forward 1976. Most of my friends we're playing in Rock bands. I had no real talent playing instruments, but I had a good ear, and was able to build large horn loaded PA speakers. So I paid my way through college building speakers for rock bands. Around that time, I discovered Philips DeForest and Rola-Celestion drivers, which would keep me busy for a lot of time. Air suspension was the "in" thing, so I shifted my interest from horns to air suspension designs. Then to reflex, back to horns.

I guess I was not exactly decided on what design was the overall best, except that nothing could surpass JBL 4530 scoops when realistic bass was required.

I you ever want to find out what "realistic" is, I suggest you attend a drummer practice session. Horns are perfect when it comes to reproduce the full impact of a bass drum. But when it comes to vocals, horns are not really good, because singers do not project voice the same way a horn does. This led me to work on various designs: horns for bass, direct radiator for mids and horn for tweeters. Tweeters had almost no power handling at that time - this was the birth of polyphonic synths, and in genral, music had much more high frequency energy than before, so different driver designs were required.

...

In 2004, my wife positively (to put it politely) wanted the bass horns out of the house, so I thinned my experiment collection, and by a strange twist of faith, people actually wanted to buy more of my experiments. In 2005, Gemme Audio became a business. In 2006, Vflex loading was introduced. As you might guess, Vflex is a short horn that actually borrows from transmission line and resonators.

This year, I am introducing the 3rd generation of the system.

I feel that sound reproduction is finally entering a new age of development. I prefer the word "development" over "invention". It took 25 years of development to get digital (as invention) to sound correctly. Advances are made in software, and I see this development in a very positive way. With sound being digital, it is only a matter of time before we push software to actually control the sound we get from speakers. This has been the norm for years in the PA world, but I think it will have a major impact on how we listen to digital recorded material. This is possible because we do not - or need to - listen to recorded music in real time, so flash based playback and DSP correction will become the norm.

In many ways, I think we will no longer have to make a choice between horn and sealed and reflex enclosures for the best possible sound, sound that is true to life. I guess we're approaching a point where Hi Fi as we experience it will be seen as a "victorian" exercise...
 
Bienvenue Robert


we have many Canucks here, myself being an ExCanuck since 1978
 
Hi robertG,

It's a great thrill for me that you have joined this forum. I am a big fan of your Vivace speaker specially when driven by the Lamm ML3 monoblocks. Hope you enjoy it here.
 
Welcome to the forum Robert. It would be great to here what tools of the trades you use to design your products and what they answer and what they don't.
 
Thank you Amir,

This could take several weeks :) When I start the design of a project, I am looking for a sound color. I'm asking myself, what sound do I want? What's the purpose of the speaker? What's the flavor? Then, I search for the ingredients, the drivers. I do not believe much in custom drivers. There are a lot of highly qualified engineers in Germany, Danemark, Israel, USA, China, Vietnam, Singapore... Each of them in competition with the other, and each manufacturer presents a whole new product line each year, with better technology, better magnets, back chambers, etc. In my opinion, it is better to look at all what has been carefully developed, and pick the best. I do not beleive I am a better engineer than hundreds of them.

If changes are required for a specific design, then I ask the driver manufacturer to adapt the driver for my own use. I see myself as a Chef, and I do not grow carrots or raise chickens - I just pick the best.

Sometimes, a new product start with an idea of what I want to achieve, sometimes is starts with a driver I find interesting. I buy a lot of drivers. Each driver has a tone, and in my opinion, it is impossible to match one with the other simply by looking at frequency curves. Two different drivers can have similar curves (they all do!), but they all sound different. I always start with the mid-woofer (I am not a 3 way guy...) and listen to that driver alone, for a long time, with no crossover or nothing. I just want to "feel" the way the driver expresses the music.

After some time, I know how to expand the bandwich of the driver, by adding a tweeter. Same thing here. All tweeters have the same flat frequency curve, but they all sound different. So if I cook a meal, I look for acidity or fullness or transparency, or anything that would get me closer to what I see in my mind.

Of course, experience plays a large role. Some interesting drivers do not make the first cut because the have some flaws, or because they can't generate enough bass, or the Fs is too high, Vas to big or small, Qts adequate or not., etc.
Generally, I trust my own ears for the first prototypes. If the proto sounds good right away, it gets refined with other tools. So, first step: get the color right, pick exactly the right components for the receipe, then cook everything, making sure taste is not only kept, but refined. This is the role of the crossover. I usually go for the simplest and I will accept some variation. In other words, I do not plug numbers in the program to get a flat curve - and 62 passive components. In my opinion, the best crossover is no crossover, and when a crossover is too complex, the drivers are unfit, so back to square one.

Once this is done, I tackle the bass. This is the fun part. I like horns because they mix geometry and gain. By designing a volume of air a certain way, you can get free gain, and taylor the bass exactly like what you have in mind. I do not like sealed enclosures or reflex enclosures, because there is no real challenge. You can just input the numbers in the software and get the receipe. I do not like that. Sure, I run simulations because it is faster to do it in the program than by user the calculator, but the most interesting enclosure designs are the unpredictable one: horns, transmission lines, tapered tubes, 1/4 wave enclosures. These are based on the same general principal, but each has a different tone, so it's all part of the receipe.

Yes, computers are very useful to get things done quickly. Computers set the table, then the real work begins. The fine tuning. After all is done, it's time to see if the design does what you think it does: frequency sweeps, impedance sweeps, distortion plots, etc. Sometimes, something than is not perfect sounds better than another design that is more perfect on paper. This is psycho acoustic - the last frontier. I think we should be able to discard measurements that do not fit, the same way we can discard a design because it measures badly.

These days, I work a lot with software. Embeded software. I think the future of audio is in digital manipulation of the signal. Crossovers are bad. If we manage to make the crossover with signal processing it is better. Same with delay, phase, eq, ... The future is a high resolution music file, that is adapted to make the whole chain "perfect" or as perfect as can be. Let's face it: acoustic design can do only so much. If a design has a 12 dB / octave roll-off in the bass, no amount of will power will make it flat down to "X" Hz. But if you can correct the signal with a 12 dB per octave digital boost - and the driver can manage it and still has some headroom, it is way better.

The beauty of all this is that we, audiophiles, do not need to listen in real-time. We can have the signal on a flash drive, load it in random access memory, and apply the right amount of time and frequency correction, then feed the exact required signal to a dedicated amplifier driving directly each voice coil in the system. I call this a global design approach, one that can yield fantastic improvement to what we know and what we came to accept as high fidelity.

Now, a DSP system cannot and should not change the "color" of the system. If the bass is bad, if the enclosure is badly designed, if the match between woofer and tweeter is not good to start with, no amount of DSP will make it perfect. But he you start with something good, the results can be extremely good. For example, the DSP system I program on has a resolution of 1 /1000 dB at any point in time. This is hard to imagine - in a world where a + or - 3 dB speaker is pretty good!

A lot of time and money is spent trying to drive the proper speaker with the proper amplifier using the proper cables. Good DSP implementation means that you do not have to deal with this because all those variables are engineered from the start as an optimized system. You only have to care about the music, the source and the room. I think it gets a lot more fun. I mean, how many people listen to the same 5 seconds over and over and switch wires in order to get closer to reality?
 
That was a most interesting read Robert

Welcome to the Forum
 
Hi robertG,

Thank you for the explanation and narrative. It was very interesting. I am also very fond of tweaking for sonic colors. Lately, I have been tweaking for dynamics and I have been able to tweak my system's dynamics to the point that I feel relaxed and startled at the same moment. Lots of fun for me.
 
Bonjour Robert et Bienvenu a What's Best! :)

I really enjoyed reading your few posts above and you have much to bring to the table.
And also you brought me back to Audio memory lane, which is always a great pleasure.
Every day that goes by I'm liking it more here among all the people; the newer ones like you, and the older ones like Steve and Amir, plus all the rest of the gang!

Et je suis un natif du Quebec, tout pres de Montreal ou j'ai vecu vingt annees, plus.
Alors je parle tres bien le Francais.

Tres content de te voir, :)
Robert
 
Darn I can still understand it Bob

sacre bleu
 

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