Hi,
as long there is no official case stoping from doing business and no explizit order that he needs to shutdown his website, this is pretty normal internationly.
@ssfas : I see this a bit different, because also onwning a (non-hifi) business and I was using the forum here to trust the different reviews with Pachanko Labs. I also spoke personally 3 times with Chan itself and it was already a bit shady, but saw several forum messages here which let me to believe he is just overwhelmed with orders (even from retailers!!).
So why I'm telling this?
I'm for sure not somone just transferring money for fun. I'm someone love supporting new companies and younger startups, who try to archive something better than larger industries!
Be much more careful with new hifi companies, especially like in forums overhyping certain gear. Paying more attention and ask around other people first with their experience!
..my lessons learned: even having this great WBF platform, pay attention and talk with other people first!
Rgs
Gerald
Dear mr. Gerald,
Thank you for sharing your background info and experiences with mr. Chan King.
Personally, however, I do not share your opinion about somehow softening the fraud cases by stating that Pachanko Labs supposedly got overwhelmed by demand (forum messages may report so, but are not the most reliable source if you ask me).
Myself, I do wish to support emerging new and small companies too, but only if they have unique and quality products. For part, this seemed to be the case with Pachanko Labs products, although this company - by virtue of mr. Chan King himself - made everyone believe that all their equipment was made in La Reunion. Which was clearly NOT the case.
And apparently, when things got out of hand, he frauded and mislead so many people by taking people's money by robbing Peter to pay Paul.
To me personally, it is clear that mr. Chan King does NOT QUALIFY to run a business and needs to be stopped and convicted by the commercial court.
If it were for me, I would like to see him forced working his A** off by serving coffee and beer to the tourists on the beaches of La Reunion until he earned enough to pay off all his victims.
And another thing to support my personal view on these fraud cases, and contrary to what you might suggest: Pachanko labs is not exactly what you would call a startup company, as it has been in business since 2017 according to the registration database.
So to me, mr. Girand Michel Chan King is INCOMPETENT running a business and should be held liable and prosecuted to the last penny if it were for my verdict. I would never do business with this character.
I hope for every victim to get their money back, but I know this company Pachanko Labs has been in trouble for quite some time (since Sept. 2024 or even earlier - testified by mr. Kenneth Lau) and just continued to take people's money in unethical ways, also by bypassing official dealers. Now that is what I call a stab in the back of your own dealers !
And by throwing out all kinds of lame, false excuses and lies to hard working customers. I could go on and on.
Pachanko Labs (mr. Chan King and his gang) are a freakin' shame to the industry ! Never again !
Once again, YMMV based on past experiences, but I hope this topic's business closes foregood, however its products might be continued by honest and true customer loving people who now what it takes running a business. But even then, trust comes on foot and leaves on horseback as they say.