The YouTube video was not talking about the 12V battery. Also I would hope no one has a battery issue at 90K miles. If they do I would chalk that up to bad luck.
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What exactly has he done? Besides moving Tesla out of California and buying Twitter? Those things really bother you? Or is it his political and social views? Do you boycott everyone that doesn't see things through your lens?
I would be happy to discuss this with you. It appears you are not ignorant of things his money supports. If you are I would be happy to direct you to some resources via pm. Yes, I do have a filter for some issues. For example, I find flat earth arguments amusing. They don't hurt anyone. However, I draw the line at giving someone a grant to study it.
I feel I am close to violating the rule against discussing politics.
I feel I am close to violating the rule against discussing politics.
The obvious joke is they don't get stolen because nobody wants them. 
Let's assume the motive is profit and dig a little deeper.
First there has to be a demand either for the entire car or the parts.
Given time anything can be stolen. It takes time to a remove an airbag or catalytic converter. It also requires some knowledge.
One would think the demand would be for the battery or air bag.
Cameras don't seem to be that much of a deterrent. Consider "porch pirates."
Demand and expertise may increase.
Let's hope the numbers stay low.
Let's assume the motive is profit and dig a little deeper.
First there has to be a demand either for the entire car or the parts.
Given time anything can be stolen. It takes time to a remove an airbag or catalytic converter. It also requires some knowledge.
One would think the demand would be for the battery or air bag.
Cameras don't seem to be that much of a deterrent. Consider "porch pirates."
Demand and expertise may increase.
Let's hope the numbers stay low.
...And yet here you are.
I read an article and viewed 3 you tube videos. That's hardly definitive research. Please provide a link to anything you want me to consider.
I think it’s a combination of deterrents that make the thieves steer clear of Teslas, the biggest being the built in GPS tracking. Through the app it is possible to set alerts if someone is messing with your car. Plus, there’s always the concern that if the car isn’t sufficiently charged, the perps will be stranded. Heck, I wouldn’t even be surprised if Tesla could remotely disable the vehicle.The obvious joke is they don't get stolen because nobody wants them.
Let's assume the motive is profit and dig a little deeper.
First there has to be a demand either for the entire car or the parts.
Given time anything can be stolen. It takes time to a remove an airbag or catalytic converter. It also requires some knowledge.
One would think the demand would be for the battery or air bag.
Cameras don't seem to be that much of a deterrent. Consider "porch pirates."
Demand and expertise may increase.
Let's hope the numbers stay low.
It’s absurd that people steer clear of Teslas because they don’t approve of Elon Musk’s behaviour. Michael Jackson was a pedophile. Same with Roman Polanski. Woody Allen married his adopted daughter. The list goes on and on. But I don’t avoid their art. Do you?
What's the opinion of Lucid Air as a Tesla alternative?
We are Tesla Model 3 owners, and the Air looks tempting. By review accounts, the build quality is superior to Tesla. Our Model 3's build quality is average at best.
I have no idea of Lucid reliability, or of the charging experience at EV charge points.
Also, the politics of Lucid's Saudi funding is a barrier, but Musk has become likewise.
The only other EV alternatives that intrigue me are Kia and Genesis.
We are Tesla Model 3 owners, and the Air looks tempting. By review accounts, the build quality is superior to Tesla. Our Model 3's build quality is average at best.
I have no idea of Lucid reliability, or of the charging experience at EV charge points.
Also, the politics of Lucid's Saudi funding is a barrier, but Musk has become likewise.
The only other EV alternatives that intrigue me are Kia and Genesis.
we also have 3 teslas in the family so color me biased. No one steals a Tesla because you can find the car instantly with your Tesla app. Plus I have yet to see anyone unlock a Tesla who doesn't have a key . They are truly thief proof.
what we see in California is Tesla vandalism as so many Tesla haters live in California. It is not uncommon to come back to your parked car and find it keyed
Perhaps you have heard of Low Jack and On Star.
I have heard of Roman Polanski. I am not familiar with his work. I am a huge Michael Jackson fan. Noone ever proved he was a pedophile. He denied it. That means he thought it was a bad thing. I assure you, if he used his money to provide a platform for people to promote pedophilia, or people who are pedophiliacs or backed politicians who favored pedophilia, I would not buy his products.
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I have seen a Lucid up close. Not a fan of the looks but it does have a very nice drive chain. Will not be able to use the supercharging network until I think 2025 which is important to me. Looking at Lucid’s financials and their inability to meet very modest targets, I there is no way I would plunk down over $100k for their car. Our new Y has fantastic build quality BTW.
Gentlemen, let's stick with the topic please.
This thread is not about pedophilia, guilt or innocence, social values, Twitter, political views or anything other than Tesla. Thank you. Any further off topic posts will be deleted. Continued posts on the aforementioned might also result in administrative action being taken.
Tom
This thread is not about pedophilia, guilt or innocence, social values, Twitter, political views or anything other than Tesla. Thank you. Any further off topic posts will be deleted. Continued posts on the aforementioned might also result in administrative action being taken.
Tom
I appreciate your point.
Those criticisms were also correctly directed at Tesla in the beginning, and for years after.
As far as I can tell, Lucid's funding is essentially bottomless.
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