EgglestonWorks Loudspeakers

[marty]

I always wondered why Eggleston speakers don't get any "respect" or "buzz", for lack of a better word. I've never heard a pair and can't recall seeing them at shows. I've never even seen a review! But they are what Bob Ludwig uses to master all his recordings so they ought to be at least pretty darned good, right? And they do not appear to be stratospherically priced. What do we know about them?

 

[fas42]

That they can do brilliantly. I attended this show, http://www.6moons.com/industryfeatures/superfi/superfi.html, and the Halcro setup did the infamous Coal Train track, from vinyl. This was the best LP playback I have ever heard, digital from dCS stack was poor - the speakers played their part, beautifully.

 

[microstrip]

My experience is dated and perhaps not representative of current EgglestonWorks speakers. In the late 90's I owned the original Andra for little time. It was one my heaviest mistakes - the damn speakers had granite sides and were really an nightmare to move, being deep and wide. They were really a disappointment for me - they needed to be played very loud, otherwise they would sound lifeless. For those enjoying these type of sound levels it could play rock using a monster Krell with impressive control and dynamics. Definitively not my cup of tea! Surely, YMMV, my opinion is due to my preferences!

 

[fas42]

And lo and behold I was reminded just now by another thread here, of this video and, it uses EgglestonWorks! The impact of the music here matches my memories of what the sound was back then ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuLa0dblJgE

 

[jeromelang]

I heard the first iteration of the rosa.
I was suitably impressed at the focus and the vice like coherency of its imaging.


Oh yeah, a friend of mine just bought the signature 9 based on my recommendations....

 

[jeromelang]

The first generation were all first order crossover designs.

The second generation was designed with hired help, and measurements showed that they opted for a design that required mid range drivers to be wired in the opposite polarity against tweeters and woofer(s).

Now they are owned by a third party. And based on conversations with the latest and current owner, it seems that they had went back to the original intention of the founder. How true is that we still don't know.

 

[NorthStar]

And lo and behold I was reminded just now by another thread here, of this video and, it uses EgglestonWorks! The impact of the music here matches my memories of what the sound was back then ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuLa0dblJgE

Frank, I like her voice and her rendition of that tune...it is smooth and easy to listen to for sure.

But, it is not taxing @ all to the loudspeakers. * Simply an observation Frank. :b The instruments sound realistic, very nice. And I don't know if it's the room or not, or even the tube video, but her voice sounds slightly 'echoish', as if there is an effect engaged to her mic. Did you notice that too, like her voice is less natural compared to the musical instruments?

Cheers,

 

[fas42]

Frank, I like her voice and her rendition of that tune...it is smooth and easy to listen to for sure.

But, it is not taxing @ all to the loudspeakers. * Simply an observation Frank. :b The instruments sound realistic, very nice. And I don't know if it's the room or not, or even the tube video, but her voice sounds slightly 'echoish', as if there is an effect engaged to her mic. Did you notice that too, like her voice is less natural compared to the musical instruments?

Bob, indeed I do - echo is applied to vocals like salt is added to food, it's SOP . Recordings are full of effects, and they should be very apparent if the system is working well. I have no problems with this, it's like using lighting on a stage to make the actors come across more effectively.

Not taxing on the loudspeakers, but easily so to the amplifying chain ... if you check out some of Peter's other videos he uses the same piece a number of time - and many setups are clearly showing issues, they start to crumble at the big points in the piece, etc.

 

[NorthStar]

I am following what you're saying...regarding a better grip from the entire setup but easier for the EgglestonWorks loudspeakers.
And true, the speakers role is to simply convey what's on the music recording and in unison (sync) with the rest of the system.

That's what I want to, but personally I prefer natural vocals without any embellishment. I don't like vocals with mechanical (DSP) echoes. It's just me; I have always been like that.
If you have a nice voice no need to use delay or other effects; it is a deterrent to beautiful nature voice. Opera singers don't use that stuff. Rock&Roll stars, yes.
Anyway, this type of music recording doesn't necessitate this unnatural 'echoe' flavor...IMHO and personal music taste.

 

[fas42]

Talking of voices, one of my all time favourites is Doris Day - I could listen all day to those mellifluous tones ...

 

[fas42]

I am following what you're saying...regarding a better grip from the entire setup but easier for the EgglestonWorks loudspeakers.
And true, the speakers role is to simply convey what's on the music recording and in unison (sync) with the rest of the system.

Bob, just to give you a contrast, where the system is getting it very wrong, is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3nqVsMoplA. It would appear that the gear should do the job properly, but it's not happening ...