Declining use of negative feedback - trend?

[Kingrex]

You’re silly Ralph. Audiophiles are basing their decisions on subjective criteria not measurement techniques!!

As I said, when I hear a Class D amp that truly sounds good I will consider the explanations given by you and Bruno Putseys seriously…until then all I can say is you are missing something in the numbers that doesn’t sound that great subjectively.

If you blindfolded me, I don't know how well I would differentiate my Model 1 Dartzeel from the Atmasphere mono. What I thought I was hearing was less distortion and a touch more immediacy with the Atmasphere. The Dartzeel has more distortion that was heard when compared to the Atmasphere. The Dartzeel was a touch more sweet and maybe a tad more body, but I think that body was more the distortion.

If someone wants to say a 12 year old Dartzeel Model 1 with SCNP is not worth the time of day to listen too, then you are free to say the Atmasphere is not either. But if you like the older Dartzeel, then you will like the Atmasphere.

 

[Jeffy]

If lack of distortion means lean and bright, you can keep it. I’ll take distortion if it sounds like natural instruments playing in your environment.

 

[Holmz]

<…>. But if you like the older Dartzeel, then you will like the Atmasphere.

Maybe “should like it” is a better way to word it?

Once they know it is Class-D, many just will decide to “not like it”.

 

[Atmasphere]

If lack of distortion means lean and bright, you can keep it. I’ll take distortion if it sounds like natural instruments playing in your environment.

IMO lean and bright is the most serious sin of audio.

 

[Salectric]

IMO lean and bright is the most serious sin of audio.

AMEN!!

 

[Gregadd]

In response to the OP not rveryone is shyimg away from NFB. Some suggest the problem was designers were not using enough. A sort of doubling-down as it were.

 

[Gregadd]

IMO lean and bright is the most serious sin of audio.

Really, I heard you can never be too lean or too bright.

 

[Atmasphere]

Really, I heard you can never be to to lean or too bright.

Honestly I do with about 15-20 pounds leaner...

 

[Holmz]

IMO lean and bright is the most serious sin of audio.

On the hand the Haus-Boss said she liked me better when I was “lean and bright”, so there is that…
(but kickin the bass is fun.)

 

[AMR / iFi audio]

Looks like a great book. Thanks for the info.

You're welcome. You won't regret it. It was distributed by Linear Audio magazine (which is also recommended).

 

[morricab]

You're welcome. You won't regret it. It was distributed by Linear Audio magazine (which is also recommended).

I think I will get this book too! Very curious.

 

[AMR / iFi audio]

I think I will get this book too! Very curious.

It's highly technical, it's basically a PhD thesis. If that doesn't scare you, go ahead