DCS Vivaldi
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Don't wanna start brand wars here. But I believe your post deserves a couple of points to consider:
Your post is irrelevant with DCS Vivaldi, that is #1. When someone is bashing a brand like Transparent, he better provides which other cable brands he prefers or thinks better and why including how he tried those, #2. Everyone of us has different tastes and preferences, what suits or tastes you may not something I desire, #3. While I tried tons of different cables from different manufacturers on my audio journey of 20+ years and so far preferred Transparent for audio cables, I never felt to label some of other brands/cables as inferior, rather I have thought that is not my preference or they did not create synergy with my system, #4.
If you think you have found a much better cable than Transparent for whatever you use it for, than I can only be happy for you.
Thanks for providing a healthy perspective. The absolutism with which some argue is astounding, we see this on that other current thread about SETs as well.
As for "slow, veiled, uninvolved", I have heard Transparent cables sound the very opposite of all that. And I don't have skin in the game, since I don't own these cables. But then, people have said bad things about mine too (shrug).
1. Already have. And I have the Transparent Cables so I've got skin here......
2&3. When was the last time u actually tried different cabling on Vivaldi? Transparent is defacto for many Vivaldi dealers so I'm willing to bet never.
4.Thank u
Suggestion: Just change out the Transparent clock cables in your system. Doesn't have to be expensive, say some Black Cat type digital's. (BTW they were $129). I think you'll be amazed
Anyway, just calling it as I hear it.
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echo your experience...upgrading to the Vivaldi clock was not subtle...nor was the improvement with quality clock cables.
I'm happy you've found something you like better for clock cables. I've tried 3 versions of Purist, 2 versions of Cardas, stock and the Ref XL from Transparent which I like the best from what I've heard.
Probably we have some idea, since we have been using them and are very happy with them ...
Three of the best absolute high-end listening sessions I had the pleasure of participating used Transparent Audio cables. I can assure you they did not sound slow, veiled, uninvolved.
I'm not a DCS user but have had with my HT and 2-ch setup a significant use of 75-ohm BNC clock cables. I've not tried Transparent or Nordost but know several people who swear them;
Here's my list of the 75-ohm cables that have been (and still are today as I still use them in rotation) an anchor in my system for great performance and musicality;
- Kubala-Sosna EMOTION 75-ohm BNC:BNC
- Wireworld Platinum Starlight v7 75-ohm BNC:BNC
I will also be adding a Shunyata high-end 75-ohm cable soon, more details to follow.
For 50-ohm (if any of you are using a 10 mHz master clock from any vendor), I utilize
- Esoteric/MEXCEL 8N-A2000 50-ohm BNC:BNC
- Kubala-Sosna EMOTION 50-ohm BNC:BNC
the 8N-A2000 has taken over the system in the past few months. I believe I will be selling the custom KS cable. It's a great cable but I will only need one...
I have also used Audioquest WEL Signature 75-ohm cables in the distant past and found them to be very good as well.
DITHER: I cannot imagine why one would want to select enabling Dither in a clock. It seems (at least to me) counter-intuitive to inject dither into a circuit when you are using a clock to add to the precision of that circuit but perhaps I am missing something. I am interested in hearing the various responses to this.
Here's my list of the 75-ohm cables that have been (and still are today as I still use them in rotation) an anchor in my system for great performance and musicality;
- Kubala-Sosna EMOTION 75-ohm BNC:BNC
- Wireworld Platinum Starlight v7 75-ohm BNC:BNC
I will also be adding a Shunyata high-end 75-ohm cable soon, more details to follow.
For 50-ohm (if any of you are using a 10 mHz master clock from any vendor), I utilize
- Esoteric/MEXCEL 8N-A2000 50-ohm BNC:BNC
- Kubala-Sosna EMOTION 50-ohm BNC:BNC
the 8N-A2000 has taken over the system in the past few months. I believe I will be selling the custom KS cable. It's a great cable but I will only need one...
I have also used Audioquest WEL Signature 75-ohm cables in the distant past and found them to be very good as well.
DITHER: I cannot imagine why one would want to select enabling Dither in a clock. It seems (at least to me) counter-intuitive to inject dither into a circuit when you are using a clock to add to the precision of that circuit but perhaps I am missing something. I am interested in hearing the various responses to this.
I have not tried it - I admitted this mode was intended for using non - DCS units with the DCS clock and other units.
Some CD transports known for their exceptional subjective sound quality performed poorly in jitter measurements - I can imagine that perhaps this mode is intended to synchronize such units keeping their sound identity.
I was advised to not use the clock when using the DCS Vivaldi DAC with the Metronome Calypso/Kalista CD transport.
Some CD transports known for their exceptional subjective sound quality performed poorly in jitter measurements - I can imagine that perhaps this mode is intended to synchronize such units keeping their sound identity.
I was advised to not use the clock when using the DCS Vivaldi DAC with the Metronome Calypso/Kalista CD transport.
Good subject to tee up. I don't recall anyone asking before.
I have mixed results with it. I think it sounds a bit tight/constricted with it on. However it may improve the textures in the bass which I like. Pretty small slices here...curious what others feel...
No. But we must remember that when using a separate transport that does not include a clock input the Vivaldi DAC must generate its own reconstructed clock slaved to the transport spdif clock. And probably when we add the upsampler we have to use the upsampler as a master.
"The Dither feature modulates the clock edges in a controlled way to exercise the phase- locked–loops in the source and DAC, improving their error correction. Try it and decide for yourself whether you prefer Dither on or...
...Dither off."
Apologies if that extract from the manual is stating the well known
...Dither off."
Apologies if that extract from the manual is stating the well known
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On my more modest Puccini/Scarlatti I have been listening long term with the dither on but this evening I tried it with the dither off using the remastered CD of Leonard Cohen's Greatest Hits which I had listened to last night following a 3 day burn in of the new Atlantis earth cables on the Poseidon/ negative speaker terminals of the Vitus SIA 025 amp,
The sound was more digital with the dither off and more natural and analogue with the dither on and thereby much preferred. Bass was better, tonality more musical and natural sounding and dither on was the clear winner in my system.
I'm sure it is system dependent but in my system dither on is undoubtedly better.
The sound was more digital with the dither off and more natural and analogue with the dither on and thereby much preferred. Bass was better, tonality more musical and natural sounding and dither on was the clear winner in my system.
I'm sure it is system dependent but in my system dither on is undoubtedly better.
I installed Roon last night on my NAS drive going into my VUP. Really nice interface. Seems like I am noticing a difference in sound quality however vs minim server. Maybe more air and quietness with roon, but a softness. Anyone compare roon and their favorite UPnP in detail? I need to listen more and get some deeper comparisons...
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