DarTZeel 2.0

[Kingrex]

I JUST posted credible info. I now remember why I Ignore you.

What's credible. I don't know you. Your just some guy on the internet saying someone told you something. Said person telling you, as in Herve has not said anything. That to me indicates the information you posted is not necessarily accurate.

I think Elliot is more on point.

 

[JackD201]

As enthusiasts we become so focused on the flagships that we forget what pays the salaries and the rent. Herve could live with that when the global economy was better. I think the new direction will stabilize his company and hopefully in time that will allow him the resources to create new halos for us nerds to drool over. My only piece of advice to Dartzeel is one I give to all electronics manufacturers. Make sure your designs are very well protected from bad power. Bad power is extremely prevalent world wide.

Herve if you are reading this, many of us are pulling for you not just because you are a good person but because you are obviously one with a talent that needs to be shared. Good luck.

 

[thedudeabides]

Concur with Elliot's take. Time is critical. More delays compromise his chances of re-emerging as a successful, viable audio company. His competition is not "on hold" and every day of uncertainty results in loss of customers and future sales. The candle is burning at both ends.

 

[Synaxis]

Concur with Elliot's take. Time is critical. More delays compromise his chances of re-emerging as a successful, viable audio company. His competition is not "on hold" and every day of uncertainty results in loss of customers and future sales. The candle is burning at both ends.

Regardless of our personal feelings about how Herve handled this (or should have handled this), or the pricing of the products, or anything else - I never want to see a company go out of business. It is sad on many fronts.

 

[thedudeabides]

Don't disagree. Having said that and from a purely objective perspective, I assume he has some responsibility for his current situation. And I presume competitve / realistic pricing (not what market will bear) had to be a major factor. Best.

 

[Vicks7]

Don't disagree. Having said that and from a purely objective perspective, I assume he has some responsibility for his current situation. And I presume competitve / realistic pricing (not what market will bear) had to be a major factor. Best.

Agree. Certain Swiss companies received government support during COVID (subsidized funding) but I don't know if that was the case for Dartzeel. In any case something does not add up because Dartzeel was a seemingly healthy company for many years and that changed relatively quickly. I think as owners it would have been good to receive further updates from Herve - I thought that would have happened at least for those that registered their serial numbers on the website but unfortunately not the case.

 

[thedudeabides]

Silence can be a good thing. In this case, not so much.

 

[germinal]

I guess this means no more developments ?

 

[buzzlulu]

I had a conversation last week with a European distributor of DarTZeel. I was informed Herve is actively working on new equipment and a new model of sales and distribution.

 

[fbhifi]

That is my understanding, as well. Based on a conversation I had a few weeks ago.

 

[Ron Resnick]

Based on a long conversation I had with somebody in the U.S. in August, I am skeptical. I heard nothing encouraging.

Did that European distributor say he/she has actually received deposits for new orders which actually are presently being built, or is he just wishfully "talking his book," hoping something good happens in the future?

 

[Mike Lavigne]

I had a conversation last week with a European distributor of DarTZeel. I was informed Herve is actively working on new equipment and a new model of sales and distribution.

heard that too.

That is my understanding, as well. Based on a conversation I had a few weeks ago.

yup.

until we actually see action the talk only encourages the negative. and that is fair at this point.

 

[Porsche]

you would have to be nuts to be giving deposits on equipment

 

[Ron Resnick]

until we actually see action the talk only encourages the negative. and that is fair at this point.

Respectfully, Mike, I don't see asking for honesty as being negative. I see asking for honesty as being neutral.

 

[buzzlulu]

you would have to be nuts to be giving deposits on equipment

I don’t think he’s ready yet to establish his new business. Perhaps we should wait and see once an announcement is made, and the terms for purchasing new gear, before we jump to any conclusions.

 

[Mike Lavigne]

Respectfully, Mike, I don't see asking for honesty as being negative. I see asking for honesty as being neutral.

you took the opportunity to go negative. own it.

 

[buzzlulu]

Did that European distributor say he/she has actually received deposits for new orders which actually are presently being built, or is he just wishfully "talking his book," hoping something good happens in the future?

Exactly what I wrote in my post. Actively working on designing new equipment and developing a new model for sales and distribution. Nothing was said about him currently having new product for sale or taking deposits. I got the impression things are a work in progress and we will know when he’s ready.

“wishfully taking his book” sounds speculative in nature. I’m not quite sure if you are referring to the distributor or Herve?

Perhaps we should simply wait and see what any future announcement will be.

 

[buzzlulu]

There does seem to be some negativity in this thread. Have there been any reports about Herve burning any distributors or retail clients?

 

[facten]

Exactly what I wrote in my post. Actively working on designing new equipment and developing a new model for sales and distribution. Nothing was said about him currently having new product for sale or taking deposits. I got the impression things are a work in progress and we will know when he’s ready.

“wishfully taking his book” sounds speculative in nature. I’m not quite sure if you are referring to the distributor or Herve?

Perhaps we should simply wait and see what any future announcement will be.

I think Ron was focusing on the 1st part of your statement "I was informed Herve is actively working on new equipment "

 

[buzzlulu]

I think Ron was focusing on the 1st part of your statement "I was informed Herve is actively working on new equipment "

Let me clarify - actively working on DESIGNING new equipment. I was also told at lower price points