+1. And this can be said for any other format as well. After following this entire thread I'm convinced that a a good quality recording, properly mastered and transferred onto standard 16/44.1 can be considered high-rez.
(...) But if you're the sort of person who doesn't know diddly squat about maths and electronics and audio, you are qualified to pontificate about which DAC is "grade A+", based on your own fantasies about your Golden Ears. It's laughable really.
It is only laughable if we fail to understand that a degree in math and electronics will mostly prepare us to understand how limited is our understanding of the small differences in stereo reproduction.
BTW, you should also understand that these personal gradings only reflect people opinion and preference about equipment. We exchange our opinions freely in this board and enjoy doing so. Making you laugh is a secondary effect, apologies for it - but think it would be worst if would make you cry.
It is only laughable if we fail to understand that a degree in math and electronics will mostly prepare us to understand how limited is our understanding of the small differences in stereo reproduction.
Indeed. It has been proven that actual technical understanding tends to spoil your audiophile experience. "Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise".
Indeed. It has been proven that actual technical understanding tends to spoil your audiophile experience. "Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise".
AFAIK no one has proven such nonsense. But the feeling of superiority and the bias expectation created by poor and naive interpretation of technical data is well known in audio forums.
Perhaps a degree in human hearing process is more to the point. The science of understanding the movement of charges in an audio signal is well understood vs hearing processes IMO.
AFAIK no one has proven such nonsense. But the feeling of superiority and the bias expectation created by poor and naive interpretation of technical data is well known in audio forums.
Yes. Of course it pales compared to the expectation bias created by high-dollar investment, fat cables, shiny boxes and denial of all technical data that disagrees with wishful thinking.
Yes. Of course it pales compared to the expectation bias created by high-dollar investment, fat cables, shiny boxes and denial of all technical data that disagrees with the aforementioned wishful thinking.
I think speakers/amps make more of a difference , i do think sacd is more high res in general ,redbook can also sound good if the recording is good and that varies a lot
interesting ,having only read half of it and not having done recordings myself yet ,which would be interesting in the future.
I have yet to hear better transparency then that of analogue master tape , for the first time i heard every cough and chair moving in the audience
there is a bit more hiss i agree ,cd is quiter
I think speakers/amps make more of a difference , i do think sacd is more high res in general ,redbook can also sound good if the recording is good and that varies a lot
Isn't it great when you do some google searches with key words and come up with an article that supports your way of thinking? What do you expect from this believer and seller of digital fairy tales? He has hung his reputation on AIX and PCM recordings. He tells people that in order to be true high resolution that you have to have a sampling rate of at least 88.2Khz and a captured dynamic range of 130dB. We have talked about this before. Nobody is routinely recording music that has anything approaching 130dB of dynamic range. This is also the same guy who in the article that you linked to said that casual listeners couldn't discern any difference between MP3 and DSD.
Again, he is selling PCM and we should be surprised that he doesn't like analog tape and DSD?
Sure. We can dismiss his arguments, or we can actually discuss them rationally. I prefer not to shoot messengers, and actually make my decisions based on the contents of the message.
Yes. Of course it pales compared to the expectation bias created by high-dollar investment, fat cables, shiny boxes and denial of all technical data that disagrees with wishful thinking.
You know technically expectation bias isn't the right term in this scenario right? There are a number but expectation bias isn't one of them unless those you accuse are actually running experiments and not just subjective evaluations.
Take a breath and realize that Stereotyping is a cognitive bias as well.
Even better when it lands in my email inbox as a result of subscribing to a newsletter.
Sure. We can dismiss his arguments, or we can actually discuss them rationally. I prefer not to shoot messengers, and actually make my decisions based on the contents of the message.
You know technically expectation bias isn't the right term in this scenario right? There are a number but expectation bias isn't one of them unless those you accuse are actually running experiments and not just subjective evaluations.
Take a breath and realize that Stereotyping is a cognitive bias as well.
You could take the words that Tim wrote that you quoted and insert them verbatim in any number of threads because that's what Tim does ad nauseum. The only other words that he left out of his normal response is "double-blind testing." It's almost like Groundhog Day.
You know technically expectation bias isn't the right term in this scenario right? There are a number but expectation bias isn't one of them unless those you accuse are actually running experiments and not just subjective evaluations.
Take a breath and realize that Stereotyping is a cognitive bias as well.
I suppose it would be stereotyping if I believed all audiophiles behaved that way. I don't. Surely you don't deny hat many do? That price, look, prestige and group beliefs drive preference in this hobby?
Surely they influence some audiophiles. But thanks to your posts most WBF members are now immune to these factors. But in spite of that some nice looking and expensive gear, coming from brands known for a long tradition of quality, sounds better for them than a Pioneer AV receiver.
I suppose everyone should buy the cheapest products available that look the worst compared to their competition and there should be no pride of ownership and then you would be satisfied? Oh, and let's not forget to perform double-blind testing on all components before we buy them.
My 2cents.
I have cd's that sound better than DVDA's or SACD. I have hybrids where I prefer the redbook layer over the hires. I don't dramatically favor one format over another. Though if I had to pick I slightly lean towards DVDA 192/24 with the disc I have. My take is what I call "nose to console". It's a term from my old mainframe h/w days. How long do you take and use the tools available to get as much as possible from the h/w, s/w before and while t/s. Good knowledge of whats in front of you and time well spent usually leads to better results.