Bang & Olufsens Beogram 4000 turntable

Would you buy movingagnet cartridge

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Gregadd

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Despite my current preoccupation with davs this particular rebuild is noteworthy. When closed it resembles a laptop compiter. I wish I had pulled the trigger in its earlier incarnation

It is designated to commemorate their 95th anniversary. Only 95 will be made ar$11,000. Moving magnet cartridge included. 1647118629285.png
 

marty

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Jeez, I remember the original. We all thought it was sooo freakin' cool! Of course, B&O was always a mid fi product with a "slickness" factor. Would have been an instant hit if social media were around then, touted by any number of relatively obscure celebrities interested in followers (i.e, twits who tweet) more than relevance.

One thing however is true. It has less tracking angle error than any pivoted arm out there then or now! Physics is physics. The sound however, is obviously another story.....

It will be interesting to see if it sells. I wouldn't bet against it. Today's renaissance in TTs and vinyl is far more about being cool than it is about audio quality. Too bad. 11k can buy some very respectable vinyl sound these days, especially in the used market.
 
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Gregadd

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I bought the Phillips GA 212 instead
 

Echolane

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Chiming in because I own a Beogram 4004. I bought it new and it still looks showroom new though I haven’t used it for years now because it needs a new belt and I now have another turntable a Rega RP40 Anniversary edition.
But I’ve just heard about the remake of the 4000 series turntables. I just inquired of a B&O dealer today and they would take mine in, send it to Denmark, and rebuild it completely for $6500. Should I do it?
The reason I bought a replacement turntable was because my audiophile repair gent always dissed the audio quality. What is the problem with the audio, especially since the tracking of the arm is so perfect? Or so it seems. I’d love to be enlightened rather than broke.
 

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Argonaut

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High marks for the Cool , not so much for the sound quality of the linear tonearm iirc … the later RX2 on the other hand was a fun TT.

 
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But I’ve just heard about the remake of the 4000 series turntables. I just inquired of a B&O dealer today and they would take mine in, send it to Denmark, and rebuild it completely for $6500. Should I do it?
IMHO $6500 is a lot of money and that turntable will never reward rebuild cause it has limits. IMHO it’s better to replace the belt and get the cartridge retipped (if it’s broken) for a reasonable price is the thing to do and using another turntable for audiophile purposes.
 

Echolane

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Oh yes, I so agree, $6500 is a lot of money but i was told it would be improved / brought up to date with the latest turntable technology. I don’t know specifically what that is with one exception. They would add streaming capability. That makes no sense and I wouldn’t want that. But if I pay $6500 for an $11,000 product, surely I could sell it and get my money back. .

I wish you’d be more specific about its limits. I’ve read about only one limitation, that it is light on bass. I’ve also read the right cartridge fixes that. Surely that would be addressed in the rebuild.
 
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I would get it fixed for a few bucks and buy any of the top contender table / arm combos in the $6k to $10k range an enjoy both ;)
 
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Lagonda

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Oh yes, I so agree, $6500 is a lot of money but i was told it would be improved / brought up to date with the latest turntable technology. I don’t know specifically what that is with one exception. They would add streaming capability. That makes no sense and I wouldn’t want that. But if I pay $6500 for an $11,000 product, surely I could sell it and get my money back. .

I wish you’d be more specific about its limits. I’ve read about only one limitation, that it is light on bass. I’ve also read the right cartridge fixes that. Surely that would be addressed in the rebuild.
Sreaming from a TT, that is right up there with USB output ! o_O Please shoot me now !:rolleyes:
 
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mtemur

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Oh yes, I so agree, $6500 is a lot of money but i was told it would be improved / brought up to date with the latest turntable technology. I don’t know specifically what that is with one exception. They would add streaming capability. That makes no sense and I wouldn’t want that. But if I pay $6500 for an $11,000 product, surely I could sell it and get my money back. .

I wish you’d be more specific about its limits. I’ve read about only one limitation, that it is light on bass. I’ve also read the right cartridge fixes that. Surely that would be addressed in the rebuild.
You can sell it now as is and get a new TT. Once you spend $6500 for rebuild it’s hard to make any profit. Don’t expect to sell it for the full price and believe me $11.000 msrp is ridiculously high.
It’s made to look sleek, modern (for 70’s), like a piece of art but not to sound good.
 
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Echolane

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It’s a beautiful work of art. I read somewhere that women really like ir. Like many women I fell for it the moment I saw it and I have always always enjoyed using it, even admired it whenever I used it, so I’ve decided I’ll have it looked at. I know it needs a new belt at least and if it doesn’t need too much, I’ll repair it and use it. I’ll also take the opportunity to compare it to my Rega RP40 Anniversary TT. If I can’t hear much difference or the difference doesn’t bother me, I’ll use it in preference to the Rega. I’ve never enjoyed managing the tonearm on my Rega. I hate having to rush to the turntable to park the tonearm the minute the record ends.
 

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You can sell it now as is and get a new TT. Once you spend $6500 for rebuild it’s hard to make any profit. Don’t expect to sell it for the full price and believe me $11.000 msrp is ridiculously high.
It’s made to look sleek, modern (for 70’s), like a piece of art but not to sound good.
You can find them often for little money , sitting in Danish attics, we all had B&O in the 70-90'these . https://www.dba.dk/soeg/?soeg=beogram+4000
 

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High marks for the Cool , not so much for the sound quality of the linear tonearm iirc … the later RX2 on the other hand was a fun TT.

I've almost bought one of these so many times... for like $150. I should just do it and put it on the shelf to look at.
 
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