Avalon Tesseract

[Roysen]

Now Roysen, you know there is a contingency here that makes determinations whether speakers/components will sound good by reading science theory books and measurement charts. Sadly, they forget the ear part....

I am not sure I understood what you meant but I will not follow this through anyway. I guess I will find out in due time if they are time coherent or not because I have just ordered the Avalon Tesseract.

 

[A.wayne]

Congrats ....... Now to get to Oslo ....

 

[A.wayne]

Now Roysen, you know there is a contingency here that makes determinations whether speakers/components will sound good by reading science theory books and measurement charts. Sadly, they forget the ear part....

I think you mean the "Hear" Part ....

At WBF, measurements and science dont matter, just looks ,cost and a few placebo reviews by online ego boosting professional reviewers ....

Brap ....

 

[JackD201]

Yes , I'm aware , I'm also aware of it not sounding the same vs physical displacement via baffle design and refraction control ....

Sure. The one that's implemented better will likely sound better. Then again, you can always move your chair.

 

[A.wayne]

Where , into the next room ?.......

 

[Bjorn]

It's interesting that they write a technical article, writing about the importance of different aspects, indicating that they have constructed an encredible speaker, but they don't show any measurements what' so ever to prove this!
I'm sorry, but this is a speaker aimed at a marked where people buy advertising as proof and price dictates the perfomance. Ask Avalon for a polar response. Most likely one will never get it. And the reason is quite obvious, it will not have a great powerrespons.

 

[JackD201]

Where , into the next room ?.......

RMAOFL! Touche!

 

[flez007]

Regarding materials involved in the Avalon speakers (and not sure if the Tesseract followed the same rule) Neil and his team are big on MDF, complex bracing and sophisticated polymers attaching different wood densities - in a way it follows the same precautions as buildlng a musical instrument, they are against aluminium frames or other high Q inducing materials.

 

[andromedaaudio]

I respect avalon highly and i think its one of the best brands , avalons are not made to impress but to enjoy on a day to day basis , your comment is so ignorant and disrespectfull , off course anyone with 1500 euros and a computer( and some brains ) can get a speakers polar response
i suggest you read some of the technical papers on their site and you might learn something

It's interesting that they write a technical article, writing about the importance of different aspects, indicating that they have constructed an encredible speaker, but they don't show any measurements what' so ever to prove this!
I'm sorry, but this is a speaker aimed at a marked where people buy advertising as proof and price dictates the perfomance. Ask Avalon for a polar response. Most likely one will never get it. And the reason is quite obvious, it will not have a great powerrespons.

 

[DaveyF]

Hate to disagree with our friends from Holland and Norway, BUT IMHO the BEST way to tell if Avalon has built a good speaker in the Tesseract, is to go and listen to it for oneself. All the measurements and construction techniques in the world won't help IF the darn speaker can't deliver the goods to one's ears.

 

[andromedaaudio]

Thats not what i mean ,I dont even have to listen to it to know its a great speaker , i know the brand very well .

kinda like saying when a new Ferrari is released from the factory and asking ?
" I hope they didnt forget to put in the steeringwheel "

 

[Bjorn]

I respect avalon highly and i think its one of the best brands , avalons are not made to impress but to enjoy on a day to day basis , your comment is so ignorant and disrespectfull , off course anyone with 1500 euros and a computer( and some brains ) can get a speakers polar response
i suggest you read some of the technical papers on their site and you might learn something

Yeah. A computer is all you need to figure out the polar response.

Just take a look at the meaurements of Avalon Indra to see how great Avalon speakers are. A speaker that cost $19,995/pair! But I'm sure you think measurements of speakers don't mean anything. It's all about listening!
http://www.stereophile.com/content/avalon-acoustics-indra-loudspeaker-measurements

 

[andromedaaudio]

Yeah , i m the kinda guy that thinks its all about fancy cabinet and throwing in some units at the avalon factory , guess it must be because i swallowed my ear plugs , what a rip off it must be , asking 300 K for a speaker anybody can make in their garage

 

[JackD201]

Demanding measurements of a speaker that hasn't even been built yet? Now I think I've seen it all!

 

[DaveyF]

Thats not what i mean ,I dont even have to listen to it to know its a great speaker , i know the brand very well .

kinda like saying when a new Ferrari is released from the factory and asking ?
" I hope they didnt forget to put in the steeringwheel "

That's what has been said about many a speaker that turned out to be a Turkey. IMHO, If one can't or won't listen to gear that is under consideration, one gets what one deserves.

 

[Bjorn]

Demanding measurements of a speaker that hasn't even been built yet? Now I think I've seen it all!

And still, many of you think it's great. Based on what? Marketing?
A speaker design like this will never yield a particular uniform polar response. It's simply not possible. The price really doesn't help much.... I'm sure audiophools will give it glowing reviews though.

 

[andromedaaudio]

The price doesnt help much , so youre suggesting if they lowered the price the polar response will get better

 

[audioarcher]

Polar response is an interesting subject. If you plan on listening on axis most of the time then there is no reason to get your panties in a bunch about off axis response. In fact if your speakers are designed to be beamy then they are likely to be less distorted on axis than speakers that are designed to spread the sound around because of the comb filtering of sound bouncing off the walls. Of course if you want even frequency response throughout the room because of multiple seating positions then you have to live with that compromise.

 

[flez007]

I respect those who place measurments first when judging any given audio component, this debate has decades around, in my experience I have found incredible measurments of audio equipment that I didn't like that much, and viceversa.

On the other hand, I am not sure of finding a speaker like this one to be designed and built in a garage....really hard.

 

[Roysen]

I am sorry guys. I have to appologize for my fellow countryman here. He uses the kind of tone used in the local hififorums in Norway which is partly why I don't want to be part of them anymore. Acting like they know everything and everyone else are just plain stupid. Like Polar response is the key matter for a speaker to sound good. If the polar response is good forget about everything else.