This question I can answer. This is a false dichotomy.
Different audiophiles, whether deliberately or unconsciously, pursue different objectives in this hobby.
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This question I can answer. This is a false dichotomy.
Different audiophiles, whether deliberately or unconsciously, pursue different objectives in this hobby.
Agree. As I mentioned to Ralph, the audiophiles’ purist pursuit and wanting to reproduce what is on the recording is a facade. It is a proclamation and an exercise in theory but not in practice.
I guess we live in a quantum world where anything is possible .
2600 $ fuses 40000 $ cables ( luckily my system is too bad to hear the difference
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The problem is a lot of audiophiles take reviewers / magazines far to seriously , they accept what was written as fundamental truths.
Magazines are there to sell you something just like any other advertisement based magazines.
Better to wait it out for a year read some forums and then decide whether to buy or not
2600 $ fuses 40000 $ cables ( luckily my system is too bad to hear the difference
)The problem is a lot of audiophiles take reviewers / magazines far to seriously , they accept what was written as fundamental truths.
Magazines are there to sell you something just like any other advertisement based magazines.
Better to wait it out for a year read some forums and then decide whether to buy or not
It will be deleted as it dares to question the wisdom of Mr Nord… sorry , Mr Gregory. Also our esteemed forum admin likes Mr Gregory’s post even though it doesn’t hold water under simple scrutiny.
Still if it was Hoffman you’d already be suspended for same
Bottom line. Check the adverts. The bigger the advertising budget the better the review. Sure not every time … but mostly And certainly true of certain rags and some rather unscrupulous journalists who must remain nameless until my death bed, else I’ll be cancelled.I guess we live in a quantum world where anything is possible .
2600 $ fuses 40000 $ cables ( luckily my system is too bad to hear the difference
The problem is a lot of audiophiles take reviewers / magazines far to seriously , they accept what was written as fundamental truths.
Magazines are there to sell you something just like any other advertisement based magazines.
Better to wait it out for a year read some forums and then decide whether to buy or not
Because too many posts are getting deleted WBF has become worse than FB in censorship! So now anything deemed snarky by an admin gets deleted? Allow me to be obnoxious and snarky and call BS on this
.david
Ah now I may disagree with that, NOTHING is worse than FB imhoBecause too many posts are getting deleted WBF has become worse than FB in censorship! So now anything deemed snarky by an admin gets deleted? Allow me to be obnoxious and snarky and call BS on this
david
Oh, you mean my missing post, I guess. Lol. Others too?Because too many posts are getting deleted WBF has become worse than FB in censorship! So now anything deemed snarky by an admin gets deleted? Allow me to be obnoxious and snarky and call BS on this
david
Sarcasm really ought not to be any trigger for censorship, very few will remain safe.
Unless of course we want What's Best Stepford Wives.
I ask myself if different amps have only different frequency responses? I can imagine the different amps have depending on their different signal processing especially different time/phase behavior over the frequency. And therefore all amps sound different. And that amps sound different is out of discussion, is it?
So I could imagine the different phase/frequency behavior leads to different stimulation of the room, which requires different room set ups for different amps. Let me know if I am totally wrong.
The second question is why Wilson Audio offer to measure and calculate different driver setups of XVX for different amps. So the amp story seems not out of the world.
So I could imagine the different phase/frequency behavior leads to different stimulation of the room, which requires different room set ups for different amps. Let me know if I am totally wrong.
The second question is why Wilson Audio offer to measure and calculate different driver setups of XVX for different amps. So the amp story seems not out of the world.
As more and more post's get delete to placate reviewers, advertisers and manufacturers, the buying customers taper away and stop posting. Who is left to be influenced ? Is a forum where every thread is about a "revolutionary new product" posted by a dealer or manufacturer interesting ?
How do we know of our posts got deleted ? It seems some of mine have been. guess it’s time to move on and just read lol. wow I never knew this place has gone to this level. it seems the experts have won good by
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Almost any competently designed solid-state amp will have pretty much a ruler-flat frequency response from at least 20Hz to 20kHz - on a test bench, driving a resistive load.
The real world is different and a much more scary place for an amplifier—the impedance of actual loudspeakers changes with changing frequencies, sometimes with astonishing speed and degree. The Alexx V and XVX are particular cases in point, each with very low minimum impedance points.
This means that not only will an amplifier’s output capability vary with frequency, but once you start driving it with a musical signal, its capability in responding to the dynamics of music comes very much into play. That’s a critical part of this, as no two amplifiers will be the same in that regard.
So, in the real world and real systems, two different amplifiers will drive the same speaker very differently, with a different dynamic and bass response.
I think the whole point of Roy Gregory’s post was that while it would be nice if changing an amplifier were a simple thing, it’s just not. In reality, you are changing both the relationship between the amplifier and speaker but also the relationship between the speaker and the room. If a speaker is being driven differently by whatever amplifier, then the speaker will drive differently what it is driving. And that is the room. It’s been my experience that it’s essential to consider speaker placement when you change the amp(s) - or pretty much anything else in the system! That’s just physics...
The real world is different and a much more scary place for an amplifier—the impedance of actual loudspeakers changes with changing frequencies, sometimes with astonishing speed and degree. The Alexx V and XVX are particular cases in point, each with very low minimum impedance points.
This means that not only will an amplifier’s output capability vary with frequency, but once you start driving it with a musical signal, its capability in responding to the dynamics of music comes very much into play. That’s a critical part of this, as no two amplifiers will be the same in that regard.
So, in the real world and real systems, two different amplifiers will drive the same speaker very differently, with a different dynamic and bass response.
I think the whole point of Roy Gregory’s post was that while it would be nice if changing an amplifier were a simple thing, it’s just not. In reality, you are changing both the relationship between the amplifier and speaker but also the relationship between the speaker and the room. If a speaker is being driven differently by whatever amplifier, then the speaker will drive differently what it is driving. And that is the room. It’s been my experience that it’s essential to consider speaker placement when you change the amp(s) - or pretty much anything else in the system! That’s just physics...
As more and more post's get delete to placate reviewers, advertisers and manufacturers, the buying customers taper away and stop posting. Who is left to be influenced ? Is a forum where every thread is about a "revolutionary new product" posted by a dealer or manufacturer interesting ?
The admin does seem enamored with posts by reviewers, advertisers and manufacturers while failing to realize that some of the regular posters on here are more accomplished.
Because too many posts are getting deleted WBF has become worse than FB in censorship! So now anything deemed snarky by an admin gets deleted? Allow me to be obnoxious and snarky and call BS on this
david
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Keep this in the context of amplifiers costing over $200,000.00. The John Curl designed JC-1+ amps do not have an issue with the load.
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