2012 Is Around The Corner- Will Obama Be A One Term President
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I thought he was going to be, but the Republicans haven't offered up anyone yet that I think is a serious contender. I wouldn't vote for the Gingrich that stole Christmas to take out my trash. Mitt Romney seems to be the best of the bunch, but that's not saying a whole lot. Besides, I don't think the country is ready for a Mormon in the White House. In summary, my answer to your question is "No" unless someone really good comes out of the woodwork soon and runs. And I don't mean SP.
If Rick perry gets in, and I believe he will, and chooses Rubio as a running mate, I believe they would be very difficult for Obama to beat.
Wow. Now that's interesting.
Unfortunately the Republicans need to either modify or eliminate some of the party planks and come current with the 21st Century
As an outsider I think it's too early to tell. I think the first and most important thing is if the voters think "Yes We Can" actually happened to an appreciable degree. The second is, as Mark said, who the competition will be. One thing President Obama hammered home is that traditional political machinery no longer wins the day all by itself. It can if the candidates are a couple of suits with no personality but in this day and age charisma trumps a solid CV.
Like our own President, Obama was swept in by a tide of negative sentiment for the previous administration. I believe any Democrat would have beat McCain at that point but first he had to win the nomination. This is where his charisma came in. This time while some negative sentiment remains, he will be judged on what he's been able to get done himself.
I may be wrong on this but I think the GOP has more voters than Democrats that vote the party line. I also think that both parties have a smaller percentage of the total voting population of party philosophy hardliners than in the past. This larger middle or swing vote will be looking at performance for the incumbent and charisma for the challenger.
I see the 2012 election being either a nail biter or a snooze fest. Nothing in between.
Like our own President, Obama was swept in by a tide of negative sentiment for the previous administration. I believe any Democrat would have beat McCain at that point but first he had to win the nomination. This is where his charisma came in. This time while some negative sentiment remains, he will be judged on what he's been able to get done himself.
I may be wrong on this but I think the GOP has more voters than Democrats that vote the party line. I also think that both parties have a smaller percentage of the total voting population of party philosophy hardliners than in the past. This larger middle or swing vote will be looking at performance for the incumbent and charisma for the challenger.
I see the 2012 election being either a nail biter or a snooze fest. Nothing in between.
Steve, you and I may think that way (and NY and CA), but most of the country doesn't
The saving grace for Obama is the electoral college. I don't see any Republican candidate taking NY and CA and there's a big chunk of votes. So the race then comes down to a few states like TX, FL, NJ, PA, IL, IA, MA, MN, WI.
I don't think he is beatable. The Republican can't seem to get out of their own way. Palin couldn't win nor could Gingrich. And more importantly, many of the "promises" the Republicans made to get elected will not be fulfilled.
Personal opinion: Not only will Obama get re-elected, by a major margin of victory, the Democrats will end up owning both houses.
Without getting too "political", there are way too many things in Obama's favor and too few in any one elses for him not to win.
Just sayin'
Personal opinion: Not only will Obama get re-elected, by a major margin of victory, the Democrats will end up owning both houses.
Without getting too "political", there are way too many things in Obama's favor and too few in any one elses for him not to win.
Just sayin'
Republicans may have to come up with less polarizing candidates. Michelle Bachman? Mitt Romney, Newt? Sara? The demography of this country is changing fast and few of their candidates seem to reflect the new demographic. Comes the time to vote that will count.. On another front many of the Republicans promises will be difficult to fulfill .. The Wisconsin debacle will be reminded to everyone and if it is Mitt his signing of the same health plan he is now deriding will be his downfall ... Economy may recover ..Signs of recovery are there if that happens in a visible way in 2012 case closed.. Outcome looks like a repeat.
I think you hit the nail on the head. The over riding issue will be the economy and jobs; this campaign might just set a record for mudslinging. It's too bad Obama wasted the first two years when he held the majority in Congress on his health care plan instead of jobs
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Does it really matter? The President for the most part carrys out their Party's(DEM,REP) nebulous platform,makes promises that are never kept. But remember don't get bamboozled,baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
Here's the funny thing, I'm talking to my neighbor yesterday and he comments..." Obama is the reason we are in the recession that we are in and all the country's economic problems stem from him" .....and, " If Obama hadn't bailed out the banks with the TARP program we wouldn't be in the trouble we are in today".
IMHO, the problem we face in this country today is that the public has a VERY short memory
The Reps know that and will use it to their full advantage
IMHO, the problem we face in this country today is that the public has a VERY short memory
The Reps know that and will use it to their full advantage
Obama will get another four years. The GOP has themselves in one hell of a pickle: To get the nomination from the base, any candidate has to take positions that will render him unelectable by the center in the general elections. I'm not sure even the American electorate has that short of a memory.
Tim
Tim
The Wisconsin Supreme Court just overturned the lower court ruling and is a big win in Wisc for Walker and the Repubs and a loss for the Dems and the unions.
Back in the 70s and early 80s, the standing joke was: what's the difference between the Democrats and Republicans? Answer: the Republicans got caught.
Back to your question, my answer is: it matters one heck of a lot! To me the single most important consequence of who wins the election is: the president picks the candidates for lifetime judicial appointments. At the Supreme Court level, this materially affects our entire way of life in the United States.
Obama was in Puerto Rico, and pushing them to get a referendum on applying for statehood. More Democratic voters if they can pull it together by 11/2012.
Lee
Lee
I sometimes wonder why anyone would want to be President of the US especially in these times (not that there aren't always problems).
While in general because of bureaucratic processes, entrenched power, etc., a president can only move the ship a few degrees this way or that -- the frequency of 'big events' seems to be increasing, and this is where who's president really matters. Agreed with Ron that supreme court nominees are hugely important and have a legacy well beyond the administration they were appointed by. Then there are things like the Iraq war -- had Gore won (he lost 5-4), it would never have happened. Let's say, hypothetically some tea party like or simply a 100% dogmatic repulican candidate was in office before Obama -- no bailout for the banks, AIG, etc.
The presidency is extremely powerful. Arguably more powerful than it has ever been. The president doesn't make law, so while he can propose and advocate for something like health care reform (like it or not) sometimes he just can't make it happen, or can only get something so compromised that no one ends up liking it much (and he should have vetoed the damn dog's breakfast). The president doesn't make the budget, so while he can advocate spending, or not spending, in the end he doesn't get to spend anything at all. But as rblnr points out above, what the president can make, now that we've just totally bi-passed the declarations thing, is war, and foreign policy. And while those two things can't do much to help us domestically, they can hurt us tremendously. The damage was done by the last president. Now we need a foreign policy that is consistent with our values; this the enemy of my enemy is a friend of mine thing hasn't worked out well at all, and we need to bring our armies home, from a lot of places, not just the Middle East. This president needs to find the political will to stop the bleeding.
Tim
Tim
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