Many 468's in the field....
we have one forum member here with the 468. don't know beyond that really. I've heard they are mostly in Asia/China. I know one in the Southwest USA.
Many 468's in the field....
not sure what reaction from current 458 owners you would expect. who has said they are not interested? only that they are happy now and not driven to jump right on the upgrade. I would hope any $160k retail amp owners would also be happy with what they have and not quick to pull any upgrade trigger.
if one of us had a chance to A/B the new 468's then that changes everything. but short of that it seems to me our perspective would be expected and not 'funny'.
and maybe this is more a reflection of the sincere satisfaction we get from our dart 458's.
My comment did not address only the 458/468 - it was a general one on matters of this hobby. Nice you are vaccinated against upgraditis - I also took the vaccine long ago. But audiophile curiosity has no vaccine ...
Well spoken! Michael Fremer had the opportunity to test long time the big Boulder, the Ypsilon Hyperion and now the Moon 888. And in spite of all these monoliths have their strength in some disciplines, he always returns to his 458. Despite of 8 year old technology. The overall character is unbeaten. Once you are at the summit, it is hard to rise. Not to imagine how the 468 performs.
I heard the Moons two times at HighEnd Munich. Yes, not easy conditions. But the 888 player very impressive. Especially at weakend, once broken in. Made really fun, the grip and punch they made. But I don't hear only at full speed. The musical magic of my 458 I won't miss.
And yes, once I will update to 468. But I don't feel pressure or suffer. Maybe next year (or the year after next ...)
NHB-468 is reviewed in the new issue of Stereophile (i.e. November 2019). Wondering if anyone has read it yet....my digital copy hasn't arrived yet?
Me too... with my 458 I don‘t miss anything. Really nothing. Fear to hear the 468 are a step forward and it begins itching me to hear them.Almost afraid to read it, especially if it has a direct A/B with the 458/468.
I suppose I must surrender to the entity and just let it happen. I’m surprised I’ve resisted this long. The 458’s are just so good....
Almost afraid to read it, especially if it has a direct A/B with the 458/468.
I suppose I must surrender to the entity and just let it happen. I’m surprised I’ve resisted this long. The 458’s are just so good....
You know you are going to get the upgrade someday!![]()
You know you are going to get the upgrade someday!![]()
It is why we should get any upgrades as soon as possible!Why waiting and pretending we do not need them?
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You have already used up a pen full of piggies Mike, time to slaughter onemy piggy bank is not bottomless. i feed it then fund from it.....keeping the SWMBO happy along the way.
spent a couple of years doing the digital, now i'm on the vinyl, my King Cello is being upgraded for my RTR's, could amps be on the horizon?
my ears are what sets my priorities, and amps were the last thing i felt needed work.
which is why i'm afraid to read that damn review.![]()
Mike,
Let us imagine a different situation. Suppose MF considered the upgrade was not worth getting.
Would you desire it less?![]()
Congrats, Mike...a decision you are unlikely to regret...and all of us will no doubt vicariously enjoy!!!On my own scale, I have not looked back after going from Colosseum to Mephisto, nor from CJ GAT 1 to GAT 2. Not one bit. Great designers make real upgrades...and for those fans of the original, it can be a great treat to get the upgrade since you've already 'invested' in the original already.
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