What is "Sound Stage?"
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D'Appolito configuration: tweeter between the two mid/woofer drivers.
No Bill, it is my own description.
And furthermore, the three drivers are slightly off axis from the front baffle;
on the inside of it instead of being centered.
The mid/woofers are one single driver; total of three drivers (including the tweeter) per each loudspeaker.
I can describe exactly what Image, the Canadian manufacturer, is saying from their advertising brochure if you want to, but it is simply that; publicity.
They were designed by Ian Paisley, a Canadian speaker designer (for Image, Mirage, Energy, ...), with the help of the NRC facilities, in Ontario, Canada. And at the time that Dr. Floyd O'toole was also working in Canada and also using those facilities. He might even have contributed to the design of the anechoic chamber, not sure though.
* The tweeter (SHD) is described as a Super Hyperbolic Dome (a soft dome tweeter) with a multi-coated shaped dome. Durable cotton fibres are butyl damped and the dome itself has a special termination that lower resonance better than any usual method of formation. The Circular Suspension Roll feature allows for maximum decoupling of the entire dome. That tweeter crosses over to the woofers at 2000Hz.
The Mid/Bass driver is a trilaminate filled polypropylene cone with a unique pebbling feature that makes for higher rigidity. And inert Damping Surround is stitched around the cone reducing break-up modes that cause musical coloration.
The crossover is computer-optimized for accurate phase response and imaging.
The measurements of the Frequency Response are quite smooth; 150Hz to 20kHz +/-2dB.
And with excellent off axis dispersion from the measurements.
See, mostly all hyperbole from the manufacturer and reviewer's measurements.
But I bought them mainly for the excellent percussions reproduction, and the good punchy low bass (I luv organs; the instruments).
No Bill, it is my own description.
And furthermore, the three drivers are slightly off axis from the front baffle;
on the inside of it instead of being centered.
The mid/woofers are one single driver; total of three drivers (including the tweeter) per each loudspeaker.
I can describe exactly what Image, the Canadian manufacturer, is saying from their advertising brochure if you want to, but it is simply that; publicity.
They were designed by Ian Paisley, a Canadian speaker designer (for Image, Mirage, Energy, ...), with the help of the NRC facilities, in Ontario, Canada. And at the time that Dr. Floyd O'toole was also working in Canada and also using those facilities. He might even have contributed to the design of the anechoic chamber, not sure though.
* The tweeter (SHD) is described as a Super Hyperbolic Dome (a soft dome tweeter) with a multi-coated shaped dome. Durable cotton fibres are butyl damped and the dome itself has a special termination that lower resonance better than any usual method of formation. The Circular Suspension Roll feature allows for maximum decoupling of the entire dome. That tweeter crosses over to the woofers at 2000Hz.
The Mid/Bass driver is a trilaminate filled polypropylene cone with a unique pebbling feature that makes for higher rigidity. And inert Damping Surround is stitched around the cone reducing break-up modes that cause musical coloration.
The crossover is computer-optimized for accurate phase response and imaging.
The measurements of the Frequency Response are quite smooth; 150Hz to 20kHz +/-2dB.
And with excellent off axis dispersion from the measurements.
See, mostly all hyperbole from the manufacturer and reviewer's measurements.
But I bought them mainly for the excellent percussions reproduction, and the good punchy low bass (I luv organs; the instruments).
A very unlikely statement.
I have listened to a number of very high end speakers/systems and have never heard height that was not an artifact of driver placement, or of intentional design (to direct certain frequencies differently than others to create/enhance a height illusion. Whatever it takes to sell high-end speakers to audiophiles.
--Bill
Technically, no, but some binaural recordings use stereo microphones in a false "head" to simulate the delays and alterations to FR response created by sound being changed by the physical form your eardrums are buried in -- your head and your outer ears. Of course it's not actually your head and outer ears (you can get that too, with binaural in-ear mics), but it's much closer than the metal screen box that contains most microphone elements. This comes much closer to the ability some people here were attributing to microphones, to "encode" height information from the direction/distance/reflections and way they hit the pickup pattern of the mic. That - the stuff about mics - doesn't help them "hear" direction, vertical or otherwise, the false head does...
Tim
The false head only helps bring the directional information to the receptor (microphone at the ear canal entrance) in a more controlled or predictable manner. However for recording stereo 2 channel, there are still just two single diaphragm mics actually receiving the information, all summed as if coming from the left or right in total. So although certain aspects of directional events change character, none of that translates to something that can be retrieved as height information.
--Bill
Cool Tom. :b
Probably because I'm not used to this; I don't like it at all right now.
It is totally unnatural, distant, uninvolving, ...
But hey, that's just me, telling it the way it is.
* The first one is more fun than the others though; but fun doesn't make it right. :b
...Neither wrong; just not my personal cup of tea.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambisonics
It's a variation of surround sound that offers more separation between channels due to the nature of mic positioning and baffling between them. It's of no (or little) consequence to two channel stereo as far as I know.
--Bill
Yes, if he quoted it; but I'm sure he also has his own personal views and experiences,
his own variables somehow, like we all do with anything in life, more or less.
I don't really have a personal take on it because I generally don't listen to (or care much about) binaural or surround type recordings. Just plain 'ol two channel stereo (POTCS). From what I've read of it technically, it seems to make a lot of sense.
--Bill
Have you tried wearing the Senns forward a bit with the cups turned so they point a bit back toward your ears?
Tim
I did some careless research on the subject of vertical localization (elevation) and found very interesting papers on it searching for "monaural" localization. It seems elevation is mainly a monaural property, and naturally is more deeply studied by people in the psycoacoustics and robotics than by sound engineers. Keywords such as "single microphone", "simple reflector" and "learning" seem very important.
Although I can be completely wrong, recent listening I did suggests that line speakers such as full range panels and point like speakers show believable height effects more clearly than some speakers with tweeters on top, that as said by some posters only show "highs on top". One point is sure - cues for vertical localization are very subjective, learning takes a strong part on it and any small systematic effects can overtake on them.
Although I can be completely wrong, recent listening I did suggests that line speakers such as full range panels and point like speakers show believable height effects more clearly than some speakers with tweeters on top, that as said by some posters only show "highs on top". One point is sure - cues for vertical localization are very subjective, learning takes a strong part on it and any small systematic effects can overtake on them.
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