Phasemation T-2000 - introduction to my favorite Step - Up

[shakti]

With a Zanden and if using a PP-2000 cartridge, would one still require a SUT T-2000?

The Zanden 1200 MkIII (and the Jinpu as well?) has no MM input, so external SUTs are not possible.
As already said from Howie, the PP-2000 will fit both Zanden Phonostages very well

 

[howiebrou]

Interesting,
on my Zanden 1200 MKIII I can find two position:

Low (impedance), High Gain
38ohm / 68 dB total gain
(which translates roughly into a 36x SUT with 32db SUT gain)

High (Impedance, Low Gain
470ohm / 56dB total gain
(which translates roughly into a 10x SUT with 20db SUT gain)


looks like, that your Zanden Jinpu has instead

1x 30x low impedance / 30db High Gain SUT
and
1x 16x medium Impedance / 23 or 24 db Medium gain SUT

if the 47kohm load is chosen.


Difficult to find a good match for the vdh Master Signature , vdh Gran Cru would be a better fit.

Is there much difference between MSS and GC? My MSS is 0.38mV output.

 

[morricab]

My first contact to KS Parks products is the Silvaweld 650 phono stage, which already has the famous 5U4G Rectifier in the PSU. This Phonostage is now with a friend and I can listen regular to it. The integrated J-Fet is great in sound and it is difficult to find a step up, which can beat the internal J-Fet stage. Comparing Allnic 1500 and Silvaweld can be done with the same external SUT using both the MM inputs. I never did it
When we compare J-fet and SUT on my friends Silvaweld, the impedance of the chosen cartridge was always critical, without matching the SUT 100%, the J-fet mostly wins, as more flexible.

KS Park is using more or less the same SUT type in his current Phonostages. I am looking forward to his new silver SUT, planned for 2021. I am not sure if this Silver SUT will be only available as external upgrade or if the SUT will become standard for the Allnic 8000 Phonostage.

Was yours a two box model? I thought that was the 550. The one I have is a kind of one off that I was told is a 650. It is one box but all tube power supply (I don’t think it uses a 5u4g but has a 6c19pi power triode as the pass regulator tube and two other tubes for voltage reference...pretty nice). The phonstsge itself is the same as the 450 but with the better power supply mine sounds much better.

 

[shakti]

Was yours a two box model? I thought that was the 550. The one I have is a kind of one off that I was told is a 650. It is one box but all tube power supply (I don’t think it uses a 5u4g but has a 6c19pi power triode as the pass regulator tube and two other tubes for voltage reference...pretty nice). The phonstsge itself is the same as the 450 but with the better power supply mine sounds much better.

Sorry, I mixed up the line stage and phono stage number, this is the correct name:

Silvaweld Phono-Equalizer SWH 550 BFA

BFA means, that it was a unique Version for the German distributor Black Forrest Audio (without volume knob)

please see the pictures, already with Kron Recti

 

[shakti]

Is there much difference between MSS and GC? My MSS is 0.38mV output.

The MSS is using a generator with > 40ohm DC resistance (46? ohm) ,
higher output MSS versions have different magnets.
The Gran Cru has the big magnet, but less windings on the coils, so Gran Cru can have around 24 to 26ohm
(again, according to my best knowledge, vdh is changing carts so often, that many different versions do exist)

 

[morricab]

Sorry, I mixed up the line stage and phono stage number, this is the correct name:

Silvaweld Phono-Equalizer SWH 550 BFA

BFA means, that it was a unique Version for the German distributor Black Forrest Audio (without volume knob)

please see the pictures, already with Kron Recti

View attachment 76858 View attachment 76857

mine is also BFA version

 

[XV-1]

I am getting a T-2000 next week to play with. Also getting a Phasemation interconnect to go between T-2000 and EA-1200.

Any tips from users, or pretty much plug n play?

 

[shakti]

I am getting a T-2000 next week to play with. Also getting a Phasemation interconnect to go between T-2000 and EA-1200.

Any tips from users, or pretty much plug n play?

try to get the new phasemation 1200 series interconnect. this is triple c and better than 1000 series.

 

[howiebrou]

I am getting a T-2000 next week to play with. Also getting a Phasemation interconnect to go between T-2000 and EA-1200.

Any tips from users, or pretty much plug n play?

nice. I should have bought it a few years back!

 

[XV-1]

try to get the new phasemation 1200 series interconnect. this is triple c and better than 1000 series.

Hi Shakti

I am am getting the CC-1200RR. I assume there will be synergy with this cable between the T-2000 and EA-1200. What does triple C mean?

Have you tried the CC-1200 5 pin din to XLR? Wondering if using the XLR input on the Phasemation gear provides any benefits vs rca.

Interestingly the interconnect between the phono and preamp I normally use Nordost Valhalla. The EA-1200 did not like the Valhalla. I am using an old all copper Harmonic Tech Truthlink ic. Synergises better than Valhalla. Go figure.

 

[Rensselaer]

I am getting a T-2000 next week to play with. Also getting a Phasemation interconnect to go between T-2000 and EA-1200.

Any tips from users, or pretty much plug n play?

The Phasemation T-2000 SUT is actually two, one for each channel. Makes a difference in selecting how many cables you will need. Has plugs for balanced operation (I believe) but I use the RCA's.

 

[Solypsa]

The Phasemation T-2000 SUT is actually two, one for each channel. .

Isn't this how they all are?

Anyways seems like a great one, looking forward to more commentary

 

[shakti]

Hi Shakti

I am am getting the CC-1200RR. I assume there will be synergy with this cable between the T-2000 and EA-1200. What does triple C mean?

Have you tried the CC-1200 5 pin din to XLR? Wondering if using the XLR input on the Phasemation gear provides any benefits vs rca.

Interestingly the interconnect between the phono and preamp I normally use Nordost Valhalla. The EA-1200 did not like the Valhalla. I am using an old all copper Harmonic Tech Truthlink ic. Synergises better than Valhalla. Go figure.

Triple C is the brand name for copper being processed in a special way.

PC Triple C Copper

PC TripleC Copper Power Supply Related RR-888 RTP Series Power Conditioners C & Network Related RGC-24 Ground Conditioner

www.lotusgroupusa.com

Acoustic Revive, Furutech, Phasemation and SAEC (may be more) are selling this type of copper.
Comparing the cables, I would assume the same OEM supplier for the copper wire as such.

My current phono cables are all Triple C from SAEC, starting from Tonearm DIN => XLR (I do prefer the XLR input) , than RCA from Step up to Phonostage, than RCA from Phonostage to Preamp.

To my knowledge Phasemation is using Triple C even in the step ups.

Their new Headshell has also Triple C wires.

 

[Rensselaer]

Isn't this how they all are?

Anyways seems like a great one, looking forward to more commentary

Ah, no. Most SUTs that I am aware of consist of just one box containing both channels. The Phasemation T-2000 consists of two separate boxes (if you want you can see the pair in action (on the shelf under the turntable) on a recording I made here:

and thinking about it, I did just split the Din to RCA right to the right box and Din to RCA left to the left box, same single RCA to RCA from output to phono stage left and right respectively, but the difference is the ground.

I grounded the tonearm to the ground lug in the right SUT, and had a separate ground wire with spades either end from ground lug right channel SUT to ground lug left channel SUT, then another from the left channel SUT ground lug to the ground on the back of my Ypsilon phono stage. I am not sure if those are needed with DIN-XLR cords or not, but I would think so.

 

[Solypsa]

Oh sorry, I was thinking of two transformers but failed to consider two chassis...

 

[shakti]

I am not sure if those are needed with DIN-XLR cords or not, but I would think so.

just play around with the ground wires, it will influence the "blackness", depending on the set up.
Using the JPS DIN -XLR cable, no additional ground wires are needed in my set up, on some other brands it is better to go with the additional ground wires. MY current set up is with additional ground wires

 

[XV-1]

T-2000 is hooked up. With the T-2000 connected there is a ever so slight low level hum. It's not loud, but at high volume you can hear it with ear close to tweeter, where the EA-1200 MC input is silent at any volume.

I have tried all ground connections in the manual - both off and on. It's still there and once heard, you can't unhear it.
I will try a different IC, but can't imagine the Phasemation rca phono cable allowing any noise in - tried with the ground lugs connected and unconnected.

Anyone else have any hum whatsoever with the T-2000? Any other thoughts of anything to try?

 

[shakti]

Why not using the xlr inputs?
Phonocable can make a difference, proper shielding is important.

My T-2000 does not like power supplies or Powercables around.

In my case the TechDAS AF3P PSU needs to have some distance to T-2000.

EA-1200 is similar sensible to AF3P PSU, no difference in my case to T-2000.

If your EA-1200 is dead silence, have your tried to swap the position of T-2000 and EA-1200 ?

 

[XV-1]

Hi Shakti

Only ever had phono stage's with rca input prior to Phasemation. not had a chance to try XLR yet. EA-1200 is silent with rca tonearm cable.

No nore hum - fixed.

The D'Agostino HD preamp power supply was too close to the T-2000. I moved it down to the bottom shelf and noise gone!!. See pics SUT'S are very sensitive things.

thanks Shakti

 

[Rensselaer]

With RCA's; I ran ground from tonearm to ground lug one Phasemation T-2000 transformer, then a short ground wire with spades either end from that ground lug to the other ground lug on the other Phasemation T-2000 transformer, then from it to the ground lug on the back of my Ypsilon VPS100 phono stage so that there is no ground loop. I hear absolutely no hum (my power cables are distant as well, except for that to my turntable on the next shelf above, but a foot away so ...