Once again I will categorically state that this has nothing to do with subjectivists vs objectivists or trying to run the objectivists out. That is plain poppy cock lie and once again it is nothing more than a trojan horse and another attempt by Amir to obfuscate and deflect from the real administrative issues here.
This subjectivist forum is a stupid idea and merely another attempt on his side to deflect from the very issue which I have stated and that is an owner who feels he is above the TOS but all too often the only reason we find ourselves in these silly little threads. No one is driving anyone out.
1. That everyone including Amir be subject to the TOS. Has anyone heard or seen Amir agree to this. Please read Gregg's post as to why and how there is so much conflict and it all hinges on the fact that Amir can post ad lib as a member but as soon as there are hostilities in his forum he takes off that hat and then sanctions members and, deletes posts and well as threatens them with ban. He has told me and the mods NOT to moderate his forums we did not serve his interest there and as a result we sit on the sidelines and watch everything unravel as it has done all too frequently since last June
2. There is a unanimous plea by almost every member that this forum be split and it has NOTHING to do with subjectivists and objectivists but rather an administrative juggernaut in how to moderate threads where the owner tells us that we don't represent his interests. Hence we stay out of that forum and leave him to deal with it as he requested but please don't let anyone think that Tom, Lee or I sit on the sidelines doing nothing. We were told to stay out. This is the reason why the forum must be divided. It will allow Amir to administer and moderate as to how he sees fit.It will also extricate the two styles of moderation. The board would look identical and members are free to frequent either side of the sand box. The way it is now the mods are being accused of doing nothing but the realty is the hot spot is Amir and has nothing to do with anything else. Let's call a spade a spade as he has told us never to moderate in his forum. I completely agree and never want to be doing his clean up
There is no one ever going to post in that newly formed subjectivist forum. Look at all the posts just to decide a color for the forum. I intend to close it as it serves no purpose here at the present time. It serves no ones purpose except Amir and that is the crux of the issue not subjectivists wanting to throw out objectivists. There is room in this hobby for both and I enjoy reading threads if substance. With a forum divided it is ludicrous to say that we don't have any control over the direction of the forum.
Amir wanted to divide the forum two weeks ago. When I agreed I was told that I had lost that option
Once again folks, please keep your thoughts on the real issue which is an administrative one and has nothing to do with subjectivists or objectivists. Amir favors the court of public opinion which I am loathe to participate in but feel compelled now to refocus everyone's attention on the poll re our TOS which has also blossomed into members stating they feel it best to divide the forum.
Last I looked this is nothing more than a hobby and look at look at things now
I call it obfuscation and deflection from the real issues at hand