Sometimes you just know....
- Thread starter Elliot G.
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I think it went off topic as soon as someone who has never heard my system or seen my room or without any knowledge about what I have done to my room began by pontificating how to make it sound better.
The point of the OP is the amp is fantastic.
While I "hate" to defend Elliot he really has no dog in this fight as a so called dealer. He makes no commission was kind enough to drop off the new boxed unit at my house for me to break it in and was guilty of nothing but being blown away by what he heard last night. He doesn't care whether I buy it or not. He was expressing his emotions of what he heard as a listener not a retailer.
The funny thing is more people who post on these forums through their personal deals have more financial interest than Elliot.
Whatever.
Can someone enlighten me as to the retail prices of the new ARC KT150 series of amps/preamps? Where does the GS150 fall relative to the price of the REF150?
The Ref150 I believe is 13k and the GS150 is 20k.
I am not sure about the GSPre. That was not something I looked into.
What fun would it be if someone didn't come in and dump on someones thread??? I was just about to ask your question when I read your post. Thanks.
Marty,
This is the first amp that was designed from scratch from ARC that uses the KT-150 tube. I dont understand the hostility on this site and elsewhere about it. Warren is the same guy that voiced all their other products and the same design team as all the products. Its a new product with a new look but at its core its an ARC amp plain and simple.
the amp is 20000.00 the preamp which is a full function preamp with phono and headphone is 15000.00. I have not yet listened to the preamp since Priaptor has a REF10 which is a great piece in his system.
i dont get why everyone is worried about the designation or the look. I just listen to the stuff and when we listen its a dark room and we cant see the stuff anyway.
Take a listen and see what you think.
Enjoy
I will not be kind to A-holes on this site anymore ( not you Marty)
Marty,
This is the first amp that was designed from scratch from ARC that uses the KT-150 tube. I dont understand the hostility on this site and elsewhere about it. Warren is the same guy that voiced all their other products and the same design team as all the products. Its a new product with a new look but at its core its an ARC amp plain and simple.
the amp is 20000.00 the preamp which is a full function preamp with phono and headphone is 15000.00. I have not yet listened to the preamp since Priaptor has a REF10 which is a great piece in his system.
i dont get why everyone is worried about the designation or the look. I just listen to the stuff and when we listen its a dark room and we cant see the stuff anyway.
Take a listen and see what you think.
Enjoy
I will not be kind to A-holes on this site anymore ( not you Marty)
The biggest problem with this amp is it is too cheap. While others are building 6 figure amps for the Asian Pacific and Russian market, It appears AR decided to just build a better amp at reasonable price point using new technology. This strategy does not cut mustard with bona fide audiophiles. $20K? C'mon - how can we take this amp seriously. That should buy me a single run of an interconnect between the pre and the amp.
It's a fine line!
true, its what has become of our country in microcosm. We dont seem to be able to have a dialogue about anything. It all seems to be a monologue with no ability to hear and discuss opposing or different viewpoints.
The thread is about what I heard and feel is a special generational product. It gets hijacked by the bozo's on the bus who cant understand anything but numbers and specs, lack imagination and passion, and generally want to just ruin it for those of us that do and enjoy and love music.
While it's fine to ask questions about the conditions under which equipment is evaluated, it's unnecessary and in poor taste to behave impolitely while doing so. I never ceased to be amazed at the hostility on exhibit when discussing audio gear. Please keep in mind the WBF Terms of Service when posting.
Personally, I'm glad that Priaptor and Elliot had a great listening experience.
Lee
Personally, I'm glad that Priaptor and Elliot had a great listening experience.
Lee
look this was my thread about an amp.
You have no clue and no directions to find a clue and no idea of what the hell we are talking about.
Audio lacks the measurements you want to ascertain the differences that we are discussing.
Why two things with similar specs can sound so different.
Riddle me that Batman!
I'm done with you!
Eliott
Debate is about dissenting point of views. If you want people to simply applaud and congratulate you for your experience, you were not asking for a dialogue, two voices, rather you expected a monologue with everyone getting in line. I would grant you however that we could leave the room subject outside your recollection. They could graciously assume it was at least a good room.
It is IMHO part of the dialogue to question your experience and to question with the metrics the persons believes in. If it is specs you can reject them but they do not make of the person a "bozo". And those who measure do love music with the same passion and enthusiasm as you do. The love of music could be said to be not that widespread in many audiophiles some would not listen to music unless it is on LP (those usually reject measures too, go figure) or CD (much rare but still ...) . We, audiophiles often find ourselves appreciating more the sounds than the music itself, concentrating on the soundstage and other minutiae we audiophiles lose ourselves into ... No! A need or penchant for measurements and love of music are not antithetic. Those people do not lack, passion and don't
. We are in the same boat, those who loves specs, love music as much as the other guys...
Of course there are those who want to just crap on a thread but ... I was answering your sweeping generalization. Back to your recollection ... I will comment on it ... Yes! I had that experience back in 1990 at a Stereophile show in NYC. two smallish amps , well made but smallish and producing the low output of 80 /w ch when the Krell Mosnters were all the rage and they did cost as much as a KSA 250 BTW. the Burmester 878. To this day (21014) I hold these electronics dear, I haven't been swayed too far from them.. Just re-acquired one the big brother of the 878
.. I know what you're talking about.. I just knew ..
Eliott
Debate is about dissenting point of views. If you want people to simply applaud and congratulate you for your experience, you were not asking for a dialogue, two voices, rather you expected a monologue with everyone getting in line. I would grant you however that we could leave the room subject outside your recollection. They could graciously assume it was at least a good room.
It is IMHO part of the dialogue to question your experience and to question with the metrics the persons believes in. If it is specs you can reject them but they do not make of the person a "bozo". And those who measure do love music with the same passion and enthusiasm as you do. The love of music could be said to be not that widespread in many audiophiles some would not listen to music unless it is on LP (those usually reject measures too, go figure) or CD (much rare but still ...) . We, audiophiles often find ourselves appreciating more the sounds than the music itself, concentrating on the soundstage and other minutiae we audiophiles lose ourselves into ... No! A need or penchant for measurements and love of music are not antithetic. Those people do not lack, passion and don't . We are in the same boat, those who loves specs, love music as much as the other guys...
Of course there are those who want to just crap on a thread but ... I was answering your sweeping generalization. Back to your recollection ... I will comment on it ... Yes! I had that experience back in 1990 at a Stereophile show in NYC. two smallish amps , well made but smallish and producing the low output of 80 /w ch when the Krell Mosnters were all the rage and they did cost as much as a KSA 250 BTW. the Burmester 878. To this day (21014) I hold these electronics dear, I haven't been swayed too far from them.. Just re-acquired one the big brother of the 878
I could not disagree with you more. The people that come on the thread and sidetrack to some other agenda and then they are insulting to me that is BS.
Sorry if the WBF thread police want to be so liberal that anyone can say anything that is off topic and stupid and say they have the right to say it.
If he wants to talk about the sound of the system or the amp or anything else that might in some universe be helpful then please go ahead.
I dont have to tolerate ignorance and rude behavior on something just because YOU say so!!!
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