Congress looks at doing away with the $1 bill

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Get ready for our version of the "Loonie"

By KEVIN FREKING, AP

WASHINGTON — American consumers have shown about as much appetite for the $1 coin as kids do their spinach. They may not know what's best for them either. Congressional auditors say doing away with dollar bills entirely and replacing them with dollar coins could save taxpayers some $4.4 billion over the next 30 years.

Vending machine operators have long championed the use of $1 coins because they don't jam the machines, cutting down on repair costs and lost sales. But most people don't seem to like carrying them. In the past five years, the U.S. Mint has produced 2.4 billion Presidential $1 coins. Most are stored by the Federal Reserve, and production was suspended about a year ago.

The latest projection from the Government Accountability Office on the potential savings from switching to dollar coins entirely comes as lawmakers begin exploring new ways for the government to save money by changing the money itself.

The Mint is preparing a report for Congress showing how changes in the metal content of coins could save money.

The last time the government made major metallurgical changes in U.S. coins was nearly 50 years ago when Congress directed the Mint to remove silver from dimes and quarters and to reduce its content in half dollar coins. Now, Congress is looking at new changes in response to rising prices for copper and nickel.

At a House subcommittee hearing Thursday, the focus was on two approaches:

_Moving to less expensive combinations of metals like steel, aluminum and zinc.

_Gradually taking dollar bills out the economy and replacing them with coins.

The GAO's Lorelei St. James told the House Financial Services panel it would take several years for the benefits of switching from paper bills to dollar coins to catch up with the cost of making the change. Equipment would have to be bought or overhauled and more coins would have to be produced upfront to replace bills as they are taken out of circulation.

But over the years, the savings would begin to accrue, she said, largely because a $1 coin could stay in circulation for 30 years while paper bills have to be replaced every four or five years on average.

"We continue to believe that replacing the note with a coin is likely to provide a financial benefit to the government," said St. James, who added that such a change would work only if the note was completely eliminated and the public educated about the benefits of the switch.

Even the $1 coin's most ardent supporters recognize that they haven't been popular. Philip Diehl, former director of the Mint, said there was a huge demand for the Sacagawea dollar coin when production began in 2001, but as time wore on, people stayed with what they knew best.

"We've never bitten the bullet to remove the $1 bill as every other Western economy has done," Diehl said. "If you did, it would have the same success the Canadians have had."

Beverly Lepine, chief operating officer of the Royal Canadian Mint, said her country loves its "Loonie," the nickname for the $1 coin that includes an image of a loon on the back. The switch went over so well that the country also went to a $2 coin called the "Toonie."

Rep. Bill Huizenga, R-Mich., affirmed that Canadians have embraced their dollar coins. "I don't know anyone who would go back to the $1 and $2 bills," he said.

That sentiment was not shared by some of his fellow subcommittee members when it comes to the U.S. version.

Rep. Lacy Clay, D-Mo., said men don't like carrying a bunch of coins around in their pocket or in their suits. And Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., said the $1 coins have proved too hard to distinguish from quarters.

"If the people don't want it and they don't want to use it," she said, "why in the world are we even talking about changing it?"

"It's really a matter of just getting used to it," said Diehl, the former Mint director.

Several lawmakers were more intrigued with the idea of using different metal combinations in producing coins.

Rep. Steve Stivers, R-Ohio, said a penny costs more than 2 cents to make and a nickel costs more than 11 cents to make. Moving to multiplated steel for coins would save the government nearly $200 million a year, he said.

The Mint's report, which is due in mid-December, will detail the results of nearly 18 months of work exploring a variety of new metal compositions and evaluating test coins for attributes as hardness, resistance to wear, availability of raw materials and costs.

Richard Peterson, the Mint's acting director, declined to give lawmakers a summary of what will be in the report, but he said "several promising alternatives" were found.
 
..this is akin to bailing the Atlantic with a soup spoon...BFD
 
I think the one dollar coin is reasonable, but they need to configure it so you can tell what it is by feeling inside your pocket without looking at it. You can do that with pennies-small sound, no ridges, dimes-small round, ridges, nickels-medium, smooth sides, quarters-larger, ridges, 50cent-larger, ridges, but the present one dollar is too similar to the quarter in size and feel. The old LARGE SILVER dollar was fine because you could tell in your pocket what it was. A new large silver dollar would be fine with me and they should manufacture it with the same materials ad dimes, quarters and half dollars. Being able to tell what it is in your hand without looking helps prevent errors in counting also.

I know the mint won't consult with me, and so they will end up with another bomb that no one likes!
 
Whenever I'm traveling in the US I ask myself what the darned one dollar bills are for when practically the price for everything ends with .95 or .99. LOL
 
i guess all the strip clubs will go out of business now!
 
i guess all the strip clubs will go out of business now!

Then again a heavy coin pouch, a thong and gravity may have pleasing consequences for patrons!
 
i guess all the strip clubs will go out of business now!

No, they won't.

There's also a coin joke in what you said, but if I say it, it will get deleted anyway! :p
 
Speaking of this... the other week I was in Coatesville, PA, 39 miles west of Phila and relatively (very) lower income. I had to have a snack and went into a "center of town CVS". I bought a 99c item and handed the cashier a ten. As soon as she reached into the drawer I knew my mistake. She handed me 4 crumpled ones and a dirty five spot. My mind raced to the last person that touched these bills, uck. AFAIC, we should do away with all paper money. Since that day I've swiped for every purchase. Imagine the germs/dirt/fungus/human stuff on the coins and paper in your pocket and wallet. I used to scoff at my venture buddies funding mobile device payment systems... not any more.
 
Having lived with the Loonie and the Toonie for as many years as I have, I can can tell you that their design shape/size was very well thought out by the Royal Canadian Mint. I can reach into my pocket and pick out a quarter, or a Loonie without ever having to second-guess myself. Same with the Toonie. I have also noticed that I don't really carry any more coin in my pocket than before.

The Royal Canadian Mint has recently introduced plastic bills, which can't be torn or frayed or ripped and have an extremely long life expectancy.
 
The plastic bills we could do without. I hear they stick together and after folding, they don't go back to their original shape. I do love the dinosaur glow in the dark 25 cent piece you guys have though. That's pretty cool. As far as the American coins go, I'd be OK with a bigger coin as well for the dollar. Saving money on the money itself is one way to rid ourselves of unnecessary spending.

Tom
 
The plastic bills we could do without. I hear they stick together and after folding, they don't go back to their original shape. I do love the dinosaur glow in the dark 25 cent piece you guys have though. That's pretty cool. As far as the American coins go, I'd be OK with a bigger coin as well for the dollar. Saving money on the money itself is one way to rid ourselves of unnecessary spending.

Tom

It's early days yet, so lets see how this shakes out over time. We had thousands of complaints when the Loonie was first introduced, but now people wouldn't go back.
 
I'd be OK with a bigger coin as well for the dollar. Saving money on the money itself is one way to rid ourselves of unnecessary spending.
Tom

Doesn't the penny actually cost something like $.018 to mint?
 
A penny costs more than 2 cents to make and a nickel costs more than 11 cents to make.

Tom
 
A penny costs more than 2 cents to make and a nickel costs more than 11 cents to make.

Tom

Kind of makes you wonder about what other inefficiencies abound within the government structure.
 

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