Allman Brothers Band - Live At The Filmore East - First pressing

[Johnny Vinyl]

This just came up in the SH Forums...thought I'd post in case anyone was interested.

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=280253

 

[rockitman]

VG++ is an iffy condition rating in my book. I think I would rather have the Classic Records re-issue in mint condition.

 

[Johnny Vinyl]

VG++ is an iffy condition rating in my book. I think I would rather have the Classic Records re-issue in mint condition.

I know nothing about this vinyl pressing, but thanks for your comments. Unless he has an accurate grading history I'd be somewhat leary as well for the price. Not that I would buy it, because I wouldn't. I have it on .flac and that's enough for me.

 

[rbbert]

I owned a first pressing of ABB Live at F.E. when I was in college, and I can tell you for sure that the quality control on those LP's was poor. Go for the Classic Records if you want an LP, and SACD or HDTracks for digital.

 

[Ronm1]

I owned a first pressing of ABB Live at F.E. when I was in college, and I can tell you for sure that the quality control on those LP's was poor. Go for the Classic Records if you want an LP, and SACD or HDTracks for digital.

I have this on vinyl but just play the SACD now, which I like a lot.

 

[Bill Hart]

I have a copy I bought back in the day, very early 70's, and a recent reissue. I'll have to compare them.
Is there a place on this forum to discuss bad pressings or other defects in new records? (i'm not talking about sonic complaints, per se, but physical defects, including warps- just had the experience with two different copies of the same new record from the same source).

 

[MylesBAstor]

Go for the George Piros original pressing.

Unfortunately used rock and jazz are a crapshot and anything short of mint is a major gamble, esp. with the Goldmine grading system (what a joke!). So in many cases, I'd opt for a reissue, even if it's not 100 pct of the original. Chances are, and CR didn't always have the best Q/C, the surfaces will be much better at least.

 

[DaveyF]

I own the Nautilus pressing of this LP and I think it is the one to get. Not that easy these days, but worth the effort ,IMO.

 

[rockitman]

I wonder how the studio master tape sounds of this ? The Classic Records vinyl version is superb !

 

[MylesBAstor]

I have a copy I bought back in the day, very early 70's, and a recent reissue. I'll have to compare them.
Is there a place on this forum to discuss bad pressings or other defects in new records? (i'm not talking about sonic complaints, per se, but physical defects, including warps- just had the experience with two different copies of the same new record from the same source).

Start your own thread in the vinyl section

 

[Johnny Vinyl]

Go for the George Piros original pressing.

Unfortunately used rock and jazz are a crapshot and anything short of mint is a major gamble, esp. with the Goldmine grading system (what a joke!). So in many cases, I'd opt for a reissue, even if it's not 100 pct of the original. Chances are, and CR didn't always have the best Q/C, the surfaces will be much better at least.

What do you use instead, Myles? I don't use anything myself personally. I like to think I have enough experience with vinyl (both buying uned/new and selling) that I rate pretty accurately myself. Although I tend to grade on the conservative side.

 

[MylesBAstor]

What do you use instead, Myles? I don't use anything myself personally. I like to think I have enough experience with vinyl (both buying uned/new and selling) that I rate pretty accurately myself. Although I tend to grade on the conservative side.

Good question.

If someone says they are using the Goldmine grading scale, nothing less than mint or having return privileges. Even that doesn't assure anything! I have bought LPs that looked mint and sounded like they had been played with a needle with a silver dollar on top of the headshell. The highs were ground off the record Or one channel is very noisy. Etc, etc.

My preference is buying from someone who play grades their LPs (and describes what their ratings mean). Again, doesn't assure anything, but helps.

Then there's the weeding out process. You stick with those sellers who accurately describe the records for sale.

 

[Phelonious Ponk]

I don't even know if it is available on vinyl, but if you're a true ABB fan, the remastered and expanded The Fillmore Concerts is fabulous from a content POV. The jams go on for days and every note is well worth hearing. And it sounds great. Seems to be a fair bit of dynamic range left and it seems more detailed and clearer than my recollection of the original vinyl. That last phrase is pretty meaningless given the years since I've listened to the vinyl, but the CDs do sound good. On my hard drive .

Tim