FYI - Wellfloat - a "Game Changer in Mechanical Vibration Management"

[jeff1225]

as i understand it people use it with footers in certain cases so it is not a drainer but an isolator.

my issue was actual vibration. so i needed something to prevent this mechanical noise from entering the rest of the system via the cabinet it all sits on. utterly perfect for this.

if i used it with a non mechanical component though, i would sit the component on CMS footers which themselves sat on the wellfloat. then i would get some drain and also isolation.

You’ve been posting a lot about the Wellfloat. Some pictures of them in action would be great.

 

[Cellcbern]

i have just installed a wellfloat platform ($260 USD on ebay). it is around a4 sized and is lowest model available.

the issue i wanted to address was the motor drive for my turntable. it is noisy. creating a real mechanical chatter. i have it on my cabinet and the tt is also on the cabinet along with everything else. i had tried other ways to try and prevent drive noise entering cabinet. i was using Gaia (3) feet with a granite slab and CMS footers. this was good but not perfect.

the wellfloat alone is quite perfect. it has done a brilliant job of stopping mechanical noise getting into the cabinet. shockingly effective really. well worth a look. very different to something like a CMS footer which to me is more about acting as a "drain" for a component (i have no idea how that works but i do find them very effective).

for real mechanical vibration noise, such as a motor produces, i doubt the wellfloat can be beat. EVP blocks had too much give and didn't sound great. Gaia good but not as good as wellfloat, no where near it really.

i am very curious to try wellfloat on other things (i would love a double for my turntable) but am also not keen to put so many dollars into a platform when the table itself was ~ 8k USD or so.

FYI - Two of the small (8.27" x 11.61" x 2.28") Wellfloat platforms with a 3/8" thick laminated bamboo cutting board across both make an effective full size isolation platform for roughly half the cost of the larger size Wellfloat boards. The small ones have a weight bearing capacity of a little under 40 lbs. Note that I use very thin Herbie's Audio Lab "Grungebuster" dots between bamboo board and Wellfloat platforms to keep the board from sliding. See photo:

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[Wutang-401`]

ok here is a photo showing my employment of the wellfloat A4. note the AB logo refers to "AirBow" which i am informed sells wellfloat stuff in Japan. also note on the wellfloat platform is my brand new AC motor for my verdier. the silver box in bkgrd is the speed controller.

 

[jazzdude99]

ok here is a photo showing my employment of the wellfloat A4. note the AB logo refers to "AirBow" which i am informed sells wellfloat stuff in Japan. also note on the wellfloat platform is my brand new AC motor for my verdier. the silver box in bkgrd is the speed controller.

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Looks very interesting Wutang! Which motor are you using? I also see a thick additional platter as well - cool stuff

 

[Wutang-401`]

yes the thick platter is because this verdier was fettled by Acoustical Systems back in the day. i also put a copper "mat" on this for extra mass and because i like the sound.

the motor is something i have cobbled together from the long dog audio speed controller, an AC motor, a crucible and some tape!

 

[Wutang-401`]

have now ordered the Wellfloat Double to stick the turntable on. we shall see how that goes. would have loved to try the babel. but then i would need the platform as well and cost would be same aa turntable which seems over the odds.

 

[Wutang-401`]

ok i have installed a wellfloat double. firstly it is very beautifully made. it comes completely assembled. i have stuck it beneath my turntable which remains on the CMS footers. so CMS footers which then sit on the wellfloat. i did take like 10 seconds of care to try and centre load but nothing meticulous or anything.

this replaced a sheet of beautiful and dense black granite and some les davis constrained layer "pads".

black backgrounds. very low wow and flutter (lowest ever for the current setup). less distortion in bass areas. resolution improved. clarity of vocals improved. the vibe is good. not analytical. enhances the gossamer/atmosphere aspects of the la platine.

does not footfall issues seemingly (i have a slight one but not too bothered and not what i bought the wellfloat for).

i like the wellfloat sound. it doesn't feel like EQ adjustment to me. right now it seems a very good isolation platform and a complete success for use with turntable.

 

[Juiced]

Bought the AIRBOW - WFB-3545T-030

A Perfect fit!

 

[George K]

Are the Wellfloat Delta suitable for speakers on carpet floor?

 

[strapper211]

Hi,
Yes,use the delta extreme with spike hole or without if
you don,t have spiked feet.
Amazing performance.
I use them on Avalon Saga Signature speakers.
That is why I became a dealer for wellfloat,the
performance is second to none.
Robert

 

[strapper211]

Here is some pictures.

 

[Juiced]

Wellfloat A4 is under the Micro Seiki RY-5500 motor.



Even though the motor enclosure is extremely rigid and the motor itself is dead quiet, there are still resonances that travel to the turntable, which the Kondo IO-XP cart is affected by.

The A4 totally eliminated them, improving clarity and focus incrementally more.

 

[Mr. Heptamer]

For my TAD CR1TX on wooden parquet I tested Wellfloat Delta this weekend. I am astonished of the increase in soundquality, especially in clarity, better resolution in details and spaceness. Has anybody experience with the extreme Versions of Wellfloat?

 

[Arif_in_Japan]

For my TAD CR1TX on wooden parquet I tested Wellfloat Delta this weekend. I am astonished of the increase in soundquality, especially in clarity, better resolution in details and spaceness. Has anybody experience with the extreme Versions of Wellfloat?

I use the Wellfloat Delta for my speakers and found that you can take it to an even higher level by using the Harmonix TU-210zx million as a spike under the speakers.

 

[Mr. Heptamer]

I use the Wellfloat Delta for my speakers and found that you can take it to an even higher level by using the Harmonix TU-210zx million as a spike under the speakers.

Very interesting due to the pendulum principle of the deltas. I would have expected that the point contact would have no influence on the transmission of vibrations into the deltas. This is an effect that is more commonly observed in designs that neutralize energy through absorption.

 

[Arif_in_Japan]

Very interesting due to the pendulum principle of the deltas. I would have expected that the point contact would have no influence on the transmission of vibrations into the deltas. This is an effect that is more commonly observed in designs that neutralize energy through absorption.

I am not an expert on this but the Harmonix spike seems to refine how micro-vibrations are transmitted into the floating mechanism - almost like tuning the resonance rather than damping it. The result is cleaner decay, tighter bass, and a bit more coherence overall. The difference between the Harmonix and the stock Dynaudio spikes on the Confidence 50 was immediately noticeable.

 

[Mr. Heptamer]

I am not an expert on this but the Harmonix spike seems to refine how micro-vibrations are transmitted into the floating mechanism - almost like tuning the resonance rather than damping it. The result is cleaner decay, tighter bass, and a bit more coherence overall. The difference between the Harmonix and the stock Dynaudio spikes on the Confidence 50 was immediately noticeable.

In my first attempt, I positioned the TAD CR1TX directly on the Wellfloat using a 28mm cylinder. The sound quality improved significantly. However, I wasn't entirely satisfied because the base plate of the TADs wasn't making optimal contact. Therefore, I used an aluminum disc, which I was able to secure with a 6mm threaded screw from Amazon (see picture). This clearly defined the contact surface between the aluminum disc and the Wellfloat. I have the impression that this further enhanced the clarity of the sound.

 

[joegjoeg]

I use Wellfloat doubles under my AC ageto preamp and my Bergmann turntable. I consider the platforms essential pieces of audio equipment. If you are focused on the musical details of recordings then, vibrations, crap power, and other noise are bad. The Wellfloats are both attractive and completely functional at isolating the equipment from the rest of the structure. My listening room is right in the middle of our house and so I have to make compromises with the furniture housing the equipment (not easy with AC beasts like the Ithaka (the single greatest stereo component I've ever had the pleasure of owning but that's another story)). The well float helps quiets the empty space in recordings and better allows the turntable and cartridge to work its magic. I particularly find its effects in mono recordings and older records. For the preamp, the tubes are so sensitive to vibrations and the wellfloat helps eliminate that. My system is more precise, "quieter", and responsive to the recording because of them.