Swiss Digital Fuse Box Anyone?

[Iamrael]

I am just gonna get a pig tail that matches exactly what I have, so there should be no sonic difference...only the enhancement of the SDFB.

Tom

I would consider that the additional IEC connectors needed for connection have just as much if not more influence than the wire itself so you may be setting your expectations too high wrt this.
I have two SDFB’s. One for my amp and the other to a well built/designed power strip that has four identical LPSU’s plugged in to it….(all power to computer audio)
I use Virtual Dynamics before and after on the amp and Audioquest Hurricane before/after on the power strip.

 

[corepowertech]

Hey, Mark. Good morning to you, sir. You already have! Between the Snubway and the Master Class A/C line conditioner? My listening pleasure has risen in spades. I look very forward to hearing what the SDFB has to offer. So far, the observations I have read about have been overwhelmingly positive. Many thanks to you, sir.

Also, thanks for confirming my suspicions on the pig tail. I appreciate your honesty.

Tom

Thanks Tom - both are doing very well in the marketplace. Grateful here for sure...

Whenever you're ready re SDFB...

Best - Mark

 

[corepowertech]

Look forward to hearing from Mark. I wish the remark I quoted was more detailed.

Again, you SDFB owners can provide some first hand info. by doing the with and without comparison and reporting back.

Ah, the Tariff. Not and easy subject right now

Our loudspeakers and subwoofers are made in China - it's going to be a challenge for sure.

Thanks - Mark

 

[LuisMontreal]

If you could post a picture of this orientation in your set up, I’d appreciate it.

Here is mine plugged into a Shindo Mr T power conditioner. I plan to do the same on my amps and preamp, as my shelfs are deep enough. Steve at AudioSensibility offered to make them with "L" shape Furutech connectors, but I prefer to move the amps to the front than the opposite.

 

[ozzzy]

In No American - most place Fuse Box at the Wall...
In the EU - the opposite - we send a Piggy that allows for connection to Fuse Box OUTPUT to IEC Input

THEN - their existing cable from Wall to Fuser Box Input - good solution...

SDFB is now 50% Export and 50% No America... More and more every week to the EU...

Grateful for this

Thanks - Mark

Mark,
Wonder why the EU prefers it in the opposite direction?
ozzy

 

[corepowertech]

@LuisMontreal

Sweet Set Up - thank you for sharing this.

@ozzzy

I think it's sort of my fault as we have not built SDFB with any other configuration and doing it this was allows for the US 3-Blade to work perfectly

Thanks - Mark

 

[nortberg]

Yes sir. They are already up on his website.

Tom

Unless I haven't looked hard enough, I can't find them on SRA website. Do you have a link please?

 

[LarsV]

In No American - most place Fuse Box at the Wall...
In the EU - the opposite - we send a Piggy that allows for connection to Fuse Box OUTPUT to IEC Input

THEN - their existing cable from Wall to Fuser Box Input - good solution...

SDFB is now 50% Export and 50% No America... More and more every week to the EU...

Grateful for this

Thanks - Mark

Hi Mark, do you have a new SDFB option for the EU?

I see that many are upgrading the piggy tale. One more option is from AudioSensibility. After discussion with Steve, he added the option of two quality Furutech connectors. It was very positive in my system versus the base piggy tale.

AC Adapters - Audio Sensibility

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Interesting solution, as I am in the Netherlands and have not much options for short US NEMA power cables. I have currently Extreme Piggy Tails from the SDFB to my amplifier and dac. Will this Furutech connectors option improve SQ over the Extreme Piggy Tail cable?

 

[fbhifi]

Good Morning

I try hard to stay mostly in the background here and in other places because I don't want to be seen as a "salesman" of sorts. Too much respect for the ownership, Admin and Site itself to be jumping in left and right

That said - I need to be a Sabra of sorts (Prickly outside / soft and squishy inside) and say that our Graphene Sluggos are really quite good IF you can stick out the L O N G Break-in times. 400 hours gets you FULL Tilt Boogie. They "cure" with time.

Sluggos inserted in place of a FUSE yields a very good result - but SAFETY Rules in this house.

SDFB uses a Mil Grade Hall Effect Sensor (for Current) and a Mil Grade Relay as well. We've had ONE Failure in 1180+ units now and that failure did not hurt the gear... the Hall Effect Sensor does not allow Current to flow - unless everything is perfect.

The Box does its job by staying out of the way and the Piggies were developed to make it simple to connect up.

We will at some point offer OEM version(s) for Makers to buy from us to "build in"...

Thanks for allowing my "Sabra Self" to express my "position".. We sell more than 400 Graphene Sluggos per month - delivering them all over the world.

Thanks again - Mark

Mark,

Thank you for your explanation of how the SDFB box unit functions and data on the very low failure rate.

I try to look before I leap when it comes to incorporating “better mousetraps” into my system.

 

[fbhifi]

Mark,

How about having the option to purchase a Piggy model hardwired with the choice of input or output side of the SDFB?

Or, a one piece powercord with the SDFB as part of the hardwired assembly?

 

[highstream]

Unless I haven't looked hard enough, I can't find them on SRA website. Do you have a link please?

Use the drop down for the Signature Amp series power and Takshaka.

 

[treitz3]

Unless I haven't looked hard enough, I can't find them on SRA website. Do you have a link please?

Hello and good morning to you, @nortberg.

I can see where you couldn't find it, as it is not specifically listed as a SDFB Pig Tail. There are only two options - the 8" Signature AMP Series PC and the 8" Takshaka PC. This specific length would be the replacement of the Pig Tail.

When you are at the page that is screenshot below, click onto the Cable Length drop down and select the 8" (as depicted by the arrow in the screen shot below).

Here is the link for the Takshaka PC 8" Pig Tail >>> https://snakeriveraudio.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5&products_id=297
Here is the link to the Signature AMP Series 8" Pig Tail >>> https://snakeriveraudio.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5&products_id=38



My advice would be to reach out to Jonny, as (depending on your configuration preference and country you reside in) you may need a C-13, C-19, Shuko, UK, or AUS type connector on one of the ends. His contact information can be easily found by scrolling down to the the bottom of any page I have seen so far on his website. Just click onto the "contact" tab. If you don't like emailing? Just call him to discuss what your specific needs are. He'll get you straightened out.

Tom

 

[Jeff4598]

I'm excited about an experiment I will do very soon when I get my Audio Sensiblity adapters. I have SDFB s on 3 componenets. I was going to replace the piggy tail on 2 of them for now when I realiozed I could try something else instead. My integrated amp is rather close to my power distributer and now it goes: AC cable to 2 LessLoss 640X AC filters to SDFB to piggey tail to amp. I am going to try removing the power cable entirely ( along with the piggy tail) and run it this way: Power distributor > Audio Sensibility converter plug>2 Lessloss units> SDFB> A.S. converter plug into amp. Each LessLoss device is about 4 inches long with about 4 inches of their top AC wire plus a plug so the entire path should be about 0.75 M which is more than enough here.Will report results.

 

[nortberg]

Hello and good morning to you, @nortberg.

I can see where you couldn't find it, as it is not specifically listed as a SDFB Pig Tail. There are only two options - the 8" Signature AMP Series PC and the 8" Takshaka PC. This specific length would be the replacement of the Pig Tail.

When you are at the page that is screenshot below, click onto the Cable Length drop down and select the 8" (as depicted by the arrow in the screen shot below).

Here is the link for the Takshaka PC 8" Pig Tail >>> https://snakeriveraudio.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5&products_id=297
Here is the link to the Signature AMP Series 8" Pig Tail >>> https://snakeriveraudio.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5&products_id=38

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My advice would be to reach out to Jonny, as (depending on your configuration preference and country you reside in) you may need a C-13, C-19, Shuko, UK, or AUS type connector on one of the ends. His contact information can be easily found by scrolling down to the the bottom of any page I have seen so far on his website. Just click onto the "contact" tab. If you don't like emailing? Just call him to discuss what your specific needs are. He'll get you straightened out.

Tom

Ah, yes i see now, thank you for that

 

[treitz3]

You are quite welcome. Have a great day.

Tom

 

[highstream]

I have an adapter pair on order, so will be able to compare it with the Extreme Piggy ina few weeks. Someone asked the order of box and cords. I discovered today that between conditioner and regenerator I had used the 2’ EP after the box and the WyWires Diamond before it. Will be interesting to hear the difference.

Follow up. reversing the order of the cords did improve the sound (but unfortunately didn’t overcome the QSA USB cable’s lack of any warmth).

 

[Phon@ix]

This is my current solution:
Adapter is on it’s way for a comparison. Maybe I‘ll also build a piggy with good plugs and bulk cable… Wouldn't be surprised if the adapter is the solution…

 

[highstream]

Build away. It’s just for me and likely most coming across the SDFB, it’s about comparing adapters with the product of Mark’s design, especially the Extreme Piggy.

 

[GlowState]

I wanted to share my impressions of the SDFB. I’ve ordered one SDFB (20A) for my Sanders Magtech power amp. I ordered the box with the graphene sluggos.

I’m using SR Research fuses in my entire system. Mostly Masters and some Purples. Interestingly upgrading everything to Master fuses removed lower midrange too strongly in my system. Keeping a purple in the amp and lpsu of router produced a much more musical result retaining body. So below impressions are vs these SR Fuses and not vs stock fuses.

A difficulty here in Europe was the US socket on the output. I was only able to use the SFDB with the provided extreme pigtail. This silver plated pigtail didn’t do it at all in my setup. Timbre was too synthetic and images were flat.

So I ordered a Schuko to IEC adapter. With the adapter I was able to connect the SDFB directly to the outlet in my power bar. Also, I ordered a US male to Schuko adapter for the output. Now I could connect any power cable at home finished with Schuko plugs. None of the adapters was „hifi-grade“. Just standard products from the electronics shop.

Using these adapters instead of the pigtail completely transformed my experience with the SDFB. I strongly advise anybody to use such adapters. In the US, a simple US to IEC adapter will do the trick. You can then plug the fuse box directly to the wall outlet or power bar and from there connect your favorite power cable.

With the adapter I was absolutely blown away by the result. The soundstage had increased a lot in terms of height, width and depth. Better than with the Master and significantly better than with the Purple

While the Master fuse tends to suck out lower mids, the Purple fuse emphasize this specific frequency range. So in combination this works but it needs attention and the willingness to balance things out. The fuse boxes frequency range remained neutral in the best sense. So there is no need to compensate anything in the process, like maintaining body and musicality with switch of cables, tube rolling, etc. It is thus a very clear improvement over both SR fuses.

With my standard power cable, the timbre was phenomenal: organic and natural. The sound had body and heft if the recording allowed for it. With leaner, airier recordings, it was open and spherical. There was a significant increase in micro and macro details too.

The fact that the fuse box outperformed the SR Master and Purple in my amp, makes it very appealing. Also, fuses have blown in the past increasing the costs. After the positive experience, I ordered more SDFB to upgrade the entire system.

I can strongly advise anybody to check these out. Also, try them with an adapter. The difference in my system between the pigtail and the adapters was eye-opening.

 

[highstream]

@GlowState Where did you get the adapters? I wouldn’t suggest that one can’t do better than the Extreme Piggys. It’s that my experience (States) has been exactly the opposite of yours. There’s been nothing flat or synthetic with the EPs in my system — see my sig — and the generic adapter off Amazon never rose above muddled - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CT7HB42J?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_dt_b_product_details.

Btw, when the SR Masters came out, SR said not to use more than one in a system, but instead have the rest as Purples. What it was about the Master that led to that recommendation was never made clear. In any case, some reviewers and users ignored it (or were unaware of it).