Audio Note 211 Moly Plate tube = AN-4242E

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Anyone here own, tried or heard the Audio Note 211 molybdenum plate tube named AN-4242E, made by Psvane? Thanks in advance!

Greetings from Switzerland, David.
 
Anyone here own, tried or heard the Audio Note 211 molybdenum plate tube named AN-4242E, made by Psvane? Thanks in advance!

Greetings from Switzerland, David.

Why are you looking at tubes, what happened to spectral?
 
Why are you looking at tubes, what happened to spectral?
I have several amps/systems, and you’ll remember in contrast to some audiophiles, I don’t have “principles” apart from sound quality, as a matter of fact, despite my curiosity about technicalities, as long as it sounds great, I couldn’t care less if a hamster were turning its wheel under the hood, and I have no intention of parting with any right now. The 211s would go into a system I set up for my dad (the one with dual triple OB subs I seem to remember I told you and/or asked about some time earlier) in which I upgraded a Line Magnetic AS-125 integrated with Telefunken ECC83 in the 12AX7 positions and Melz 1578 in the 6SN7 driver position, which I thus far prefer to what GT, GTB, VT-231 and 6F8G I have in my NOS collection. I don’t have any 211s, so the only ones I’ve rolled so far are Shuguang Electron Tubes aluminum base and Psvane HiFi series, but LM owners insist the power tubes tend to make the greatest difference. Hence the question.

Greetings from Switzerland, David.
 
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LM owners insist the power tubes tend to make the greatest difference. Hence the question.

Greetings from Switzerland, David.

yes they do. I don't know the AN 4242 but I did compare the following and this was the result. Psvane 211 < Kr 211 < GE, RCA <<<< Amperex

I understand that United is as good as Amperex, and maybe WE 242c is as well. These are all rare and expensive. For current production, you can try KR and Elrog. I haven't tried Elrog might be good.
 
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yes they do. I don't know the AN 4242 but I did compare the following and this was the result. Psvane 211 < Kr 211 < GE, RCA <<<< Amperex

I understand that United is as good as Amperex, and maybe WE 242c is as well. These are all rare and expensive. For current production, you can try KR and Elrog. I haven't tried Elrog might be good.
Risky business finding matched NOS pairs, I’m afraid, and I’ve had so-so experiences with Elrog, although I don’t know their molybdenum plate 211, the ER242C, surely the price is prohibitive (not mention disproportionate for the LM, even if it’s a lovely sounding amp). The KR appears to differ from 211 specs, and many report it’s a bit dull sounding, so this may depend on the circuit. What 211 amp did you compare these in?

Greetings from Switzerland, David.
 
yes they do. I don't know the AN 4242 but I did compare the following and this was the result. Psvane 211 < Kr 211 < GE, RCA <<<< Amperex

I understand that United is as good as Amperex, and maybe WE 242c is as well. These are all rare and expensive. For current production, you can try KR and Elrog. I haven't tried Elrog might be good.
Most curious about molybdenum plate, which with current production would leave me with Audio Note, Elrog and Linlai.

Greetings from Switzerland, David.
 
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Risky business finding matched NOS pairs, I’m afraid, and I’ve had so-so experiences with Elrog, although I don’t know their molybdenum plate 211, the ER242C, surely the price is prohibitive (not mention disproportionate for the LM, even if it’s a lovely sounding amp). The KR appears to differ from 211 specs, and many report it’s a bit dull sounding, so this may depend on the circuit. What 211 amp did you compare these in?

Greetings from Switzerland, David.

This was a 211 made by the same owner as the horns universum I listen to in the UK. These were voiced on the Psvane. The NOS were Justin's who will confirm the NOS compare in his amps too.

The KR was not at all dull compared to Psvane it was lower noise and you could hear more.

I wouldn't spend on GE or RCA even though they were better, only on Amperex. That was magical.
 
This was a 211 made by the same owner as the horns universum I listen to in the UK. These were voiced on the Psvane. The NOS were Justin's who will confirm the NOS compare in his amps too.

The KR was not at all dull compared to Psvane it was lower noise and you could hear more.

I wouldn't spend on GE or RCA even though they were better, only on Amperex. That was magical.
Finding a pair of Amperex that’s truly NOS and matched would seem like the quest for the Holy Grail, LOL!

Greetings from Switzerland, David.
 
I recently was able to obtain 4 sets (8 tubes) Amperex 211 brass base vacuum tubes. All tested essentially 100-105 % NOS with a plate voltage of 600V. So they all pretty much match. Not that I care that much. I am running Air Tight 211 mono blocks, so I'm not much concerned if they exactly match.
Anyway, I would rate Amperex>RCA>Elrog 242>Elrog 211=Audionote 242>GE. Just my two cents, but I have been swapping these 211 out, with each other, just trying to figure it out.
 
yes they do. I don't know the AN 4242 but I did compare the following and this was the result. Psvane 211 < Kr 211 < GE, RCA <<<< Amperex

I understand that United is as good as Amperex, and maybe WE 242c is as well. These are all rare and expensive. For current production, you can try KR and Elrog. I haven't tried Elrog might be good.
Is there an Amperex molybdenum 211?

I have a pair of really old Amperex 211 with carbon anode, in great shape, although I have not tried them yet.

As for the OP’s question, I recently got a pair of 4242E tubes (moly anodes) for my Kondo Ongaku. They sound fantastic, I think better than NOS GE 211 (carbon anodes). The midrange has more richness and charm.
 
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Is there an Amperex molybdenum 211?
No that I know of, I just know the Amperex 211. There might be an Elrog 211 in moly made by Thomas mayer
 
The Elrog moly 211's are called the Elrog ER 242. I'm listening to them right now in my Air Tight 211 monoblocs. I think that they are nearly equal to the NOS Amperex 211, probably just a shade behind, but it's close, and I've tried about everything. my 2 cents

Thanks, good to know
 
No that I know of, I just know the Amperex 211. There might be an Elrog 211 in moly made by Thomas mayer
Yes, there's an Elrog 211 moly. The moly ones I got, the 4242E, are from Audio Note UK (commissioned to Psvane). They are a copy of the rare 4242A STC moly 211.
That’s the ones @bonzo75 was referring to further above. I like those!

Greetings from Switzerland, David.
 
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The Elrog moly 211's are called the Elrog ER 242. I'm listening to them right now in my Air Tight 211 monoblocs. I think that they are nearly equal to the NOS Amperex 211, probably just a shade behind, but it's close, and I've tried about everything. my 2 cents
They're deffo worth the extra moolah?
Aren't the Elrog Mayer 211 Molys €6k for a balanced quad?
As opposed to £2k for AN production.
I'm still rather angry after the last time I dealt with Elrog tubes, £2k spent, two sets of 211s fail within weeks.
 
I'm still rather angry after the last time I dealt with Elrog tubes, £2k spent, two sets of 211s fail within weeks.
Hi! Have these been old tubes, maybe from the old (now defunct) company? I have not heard a report about a failed ER211 from my production

Thomas
 
Yes Thomas, back in the heady days of 2014.
 
Two sets of expensive tubes failing before the day was out...you bet I was angry, lol.
 

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