Tripoint troy signature grounding device

[spiritofmusic]

Don't think so Roger
Otherwise why do so many AE owners have 2, even 3 Troys?

 

[RogerD]

Don't think so Roger
Otherwise why do so many AE owners have 2, even 3 Troys?

Somebody prove to me I am wrong....

 

[microstrip]

The capacity of any Tripoint should be unlimited as far as grounding multiple components. The only limitation is the users ability to configure the connection. There is no hocus pocus here,the connection to mains ground is sufficient.

Do not think so. The Troy seems to be much more than just a distribution box.

 

[spiritofmusic]

Tell audiophiles not to unecesarily spend their cash?
That's a novel concept

 

[RogerD]

Do not think so. The Troy seems to be much more than just a distribution box.

Micro,same concept,same result.

 

[spiritofmusic]

If you're right Roger, Troy customers REALLY have cash to burn, or sales advice is less than correct
A Troy Elite w 3 Master Ref grnd cbls per post should work according to you

 

[RogerD]

If you're right Roger, Troy customers REALLY have cash to burn, or sales advice is less than correct
A Troy Elite w 3 Master Ref grnd cbls per post should work according to you

That's correct...we are only dealing with micro voltage here. I have 30+ connections to a single point...it is unlimited.Carry on,

 

[microstrip]

Micro,same concept,same result.

What is the concept of Tripoint according to your opinion?

 

[RogerD]

What is the concept of Tripoint according to your opinion?

Well the key I believe is the result...chassis grounding. More clarity,dynamics,separation,tonal purity,nuance,expanded soundstage,closer to the recording event...same,same.

 

[microstrip]

Well the key I believe is the result...chassis grounding. More clarity,dynamics,separation,tonal purity,nuance,expanded soundstage,closer to the recording event...same,same.

As far as I know, it is not chassis grounding. The ground points of the Tripoint and the mains ground are not connected through low resistance straps. It is why I asked for how we should use them.

 

[RogerD]

As far as I know, it is not chassis grounding. The ground points of the Tripoint and the mains ground are not connected through low resistance straps. It is why I asked for how we should use them.

The Tripoint is connected to the component and by a modified PC to mains ground,that is all that is needed. I will say no more.

 

[Mike Lavigne]

As far as I know, it is not chassis grounding. The ground points of the Tripoint and the mains ground are not connected through low resistance straps. It is why I asked for how we should use them.

I would not presume to get into technical merits of the Tripoint products. not only is my knowledge limited to understand it, but I don't really care about it at all.

I can only say that in my system the Tripoint is purely used in a 'chassis ground' situation. and that the Tripoint Troy Signature itself is connected to the wall outlet with a plug with disconnected hot and negative pins. only the ground pin is connected to the Tripoint itself. so it is connected to the power grid ground.

I hope that is helpful.

 

[Marcus]

just found out that Miguel will be shipping me a new Tripoint Troy Elite next week. I'm excited to replace my Troy Signature on my sources with the Elite. then the Troy Sig will be moved to my dart mono blocks for chassis grounding. i

Congratulations Mike. Have read lots of raving comments on Troy Elite from Asia but it will be even more interesting to read your comments. Don't keep us in suspense too long.

 

[microstrip]

I would not presume to get into technical merits of the Tripoint products. not only is my knowledge limited to understand it, but I don't really care about it at all.

I can only say that in my system the Tripoint is purely used in a 'chassis ground' situation. and that the Tripoint Troy Signature itself is connected to the wall outlet with a plug with disconnected hot and negative pins. only the ground pin is connected to the Tripoint itself. so it is connected to the power grid ground.

I hope that is helpful.

Mike,

A device used purely on a "chassis ground" situation would not depend on connecting cable material for example. Miguel Alvarez is quite clear when less expensive cables are used, even thicker - according to him, the “magic was lost.” So he must use expensive solid silver cables. Troy is much more than just a grounding strap.

My only question is on the use of the three Cardas connectors of the Troy - can they be used indifferently, or we should group equipment according to a preferred scheme?

 

[Mike Lavigne]

Mike,

A device used purely on a "chassis ground" situation would not depend on connecting cable material for example. Miguel Alvarez is quite clear when less expensive cables are used, even thicker - according to him, the “magic was lost.” So he must use expensive solid silver cables. Troy is much more than just a grounding strap.

My only question is on the use of the three Cardas connectors of the Troy - can they be used indifferently, or we should group equipment according to a preferred scheme?

I've not played around with which grounding cable is on which Troy terminal. not saying it's not significant. right now, I have 6 cables for 3 terminals, so 2 per terminal. I've seen pictures of as many as 4 or 6 cables connected to some Troy single terminal (with extended posts) on the Audioexotics website. I'm not able to explain it any further.

I did connect both of the ground cables to my 2 tonearm boards to the same terminal, and also connect both my Thor SE Master Reference cables to the same terminal, but I did not do any A/B to see if it mattered. it seemed like common sense.

when I get the Elite, I will likely play around more and see if there might be a difference.

so reality is that there are no rules, just what sounds better (or best). you are tweaking stuff and should follow your ears.....unless......you start dealing with the actual hot leads of a power grid or the amplifier output.

 

[Marcus]

My only question is on the use of the three Cardas connectors of the Troy - can they be used indifferently, or we should group equipment according to a preferred scheme?

If you use mono power amps, Miguel suggests not to connect both sides to the same Troy connector. Also, never connect line stage and phono stage on the same connector, same goes for digital transport and D/A converter. I did not test those "rules" but others have...

 

[LL21]

Mike,

A device used purely on a "chassis ground" situation would not depend on connecting cable material for example. Miguel Alvarez is quite clear when less expensive cables are used, even thicker - according to him, the “magic was lost.” So he must use expensive solid silver cables. Troy is much more than just a grounding strap.

My only question is on the use of the three Cardas connectors of the Troy - can they be used indifferently, or we should group equipment according to a preferred scheme?

I have found in my own system many years ago that if I mixed different cables on the same post, things got funny...a bit fuzzy. If i keep the same kind of cables and uses (ie, grounding signal vs grounding chassis) on separate posts, then all good. I have 14 connections to 3 posts...last time i spoke with Miguel he said that was a record!

 

[Mike Lavigne]

If you use mono power amps, Miguel suggests not to connect both sides to the same Troy connector. Also, never connect line stage and phono stage on the same connector, same goes for digital transport and D/A converter. I did not test those "rules" but others have...

I have found in my own system many years ago that if I mixed different cables on the same post, things got funny...a bit fuzzy. If i keep the same kind of cables and uses (ie, grounding signal vs grounding chassis) on separate posts, then all good. I have 14 connections to 3 posts...last time i spoke with Miguel he said that was a record!

thanks guys. that sort of user feedback is very helpful to me going forward.

 

[howiebrou]

I have found in my own system many years ago that if I mixed different cables on the same post, things got funny...a bit fuzzy. If i keep the same kind of cables and uses (ie, grounding signal vs grounding chassis) on separate posts, then all good. I have 14 connections to 3 posts...last time i spoke with Miguel he said that was a record!

If it's just grounding you need, I am puzzled as to why there should be any limit to the number of components attached to one post.

Is there a manual of do's and don't available online? That would at least give some idea as to the manufacturer's preferences.

 

[microstrip]

thanks guys. that sort of user feedback is very helpful to me going forward.

Yes, this is the kind of information I will need if I decide to evaluate the Tripoint Troy for my system!