The Noise Floor

GaryProtein

VIP/Donor
Jul 25, 2012
2,542
31
385
NY
What exactly is "the noise floor" and what contributes to it?
 
What exactly is "the noise floor" and what contributes to it?

It can have many meanings in audiophile slang - and unless we know exactly which we are addressing we will end in big chaos. IMHO it could be nice if you could be more explicit in the OP.

The wikipedia has a technical definition of it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise_floor
 
Noise floor is the minimum signal randomly (or pseudo-randomly) generated by the specific component or system in question. For an amplifier is hiss and noise. For digital audio, it is quantization noise (generated by the fixed minimum sample value).

Note that we "hear through" the noise so the noise floor does NOT set the lowest audible level of signals.
 
People with a isolated listening room so no out side noise is coming in have the advantage .
Regarding inside produced noise apart from the attendants , i d say source noise / amp noise tubes in particular and speakers to a lesser degree , imo a speaker which doesnt resonate will have a lower noise floor (blacker background ) as the unit membrane is not set in motion by the housing itself
 
A real nice listening room might have a 20 dB SPL background noise level.
But most rooms have a 30 dB or high SPL background noise level.
Classical music recorded in a concert hall is lucky if it's much under 30 dB SPL.
 
I believe Amir covered background room noise nicely in his article here
FielderRoomNoiseFloor.jpg
 
Absent the usual suspects (tube noise, ground hum loop, etc) what's ironic about this phenomena is you don't realize the "base level" noise floor in your system until you add / change something that allows you to hear the reduction.
 
Absent the usual suspects (tube noise, ground hum loop, etc) what's ironic about this phenomena is you don't realize the "base level" noise floor in your system until you add / change something that allows you to hear the reduction.

you are right on
 
Absent the usual suspects (tube noise, ground hum loop, etc) what's ironic about this phenomena is you don't realize the "base level" noise floor in your system until you add / change something that allows you to hear the reduction.

Exactly!! How many have heard the effect of a ground loop on digital audio - not a hum or buzz from the speakers - it throws a veil over the music, reducing dynamics & taking some of the "life" out of the music. This is not normally noticed until it is removed.
 
A real nice listening room might have a 20 dB SPL background noise level.
But most rooms have a 30 dB or high SPL background noise level.
Classical music recorded in a concert hall is lucky if it's much under 30 dB SPL.

What weight?
 

About us

  • What’s Best Forum is THE forum for high end audio, product reviews, advice and sharing experiences on the best of everything else. This is THE place where audiophiles and audio companies discuss vintage, contemporary and new audio products, music servers, music streamers, computer audio, digital-to-analog converters, turntables, phono stages, cartridges, reel-to-reel tape machines, speakers, headphones and tube and solid-state amplification. Founded in 2010 What’s Best Forum invites intelligent and courteous people of all interests and backgrounds to describe and discuss the best of everything. From beginners to life-long hobbyists to industry professionals, we enjoy learning about new things and meeting new people, and participating in spirited debates.

Quick Navigation

User Menu

Steve Williams
Site Founder | Site Owner | Administrator
Ron Resnick
Site Co-Owner | Administrator
Julian (The Fixer)
Website Build | Marketing Managersing