The Missing Music

Phelonious Ponk

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My favourite music genre, progressive rock, is remarkably absent from reviews. Other than the occasional Pink Floyd, I only remember Art Dudley mentioning, ONCE, a King Crimson album. A shame, really, as even though the recording quality is not generally fantastic, prog is usually very rich sonically, with lots of instruments and layering.

There's a new remix series coming out in hi-res (so far only on physical media, either DVD or BD), produced/engineered by Steve Wilson. So far they've done a lot of the medallions, Yes, King Crimson, Jethro Tull, and even XTC. All tastefully done, with more punch and separation between the instruments.

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Do you know if these remasters are going to be available on RBCD as well? I'd be interested in all of the above, but particularly in getting decent masters of the Tull material. The Crimso stuff is very listenable IMO.

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Phelonious Ponk

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I'll play :D

I also feel that reviewers, dealers and (I suspect) designers use way too narrow a range of music. As you said, Metallica And Justice For All is a challenge for many 2 Ch systems. The garage-band sound has some particular challenges to power delivery that I suspect is a cause for some thinness of sound in the upper bass. Heavy, short-cycle reverb can tax the power supply caps at exactly the frequency that the time-constant of some of the larger capacitors being used. (See Don's thread on power supply simulation to understand.)

Here's the latest of my "challenge albums". If you haven't heard it, you deserve to. Good production values, well recorded, dynamic, and challenging. Good music too!! If AJFA is "garage metal", Going To Hell is "girl metal".

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Another album that would challenge a reviewer's system is the hard-to-classify Trioscapes. May be I will call it "jazz metal" from now on.

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I'm not a metal fan, but they've got a hot female singer performing in Goth lingerie. If they're any good I'm surprised they're not huge.

Tim
 

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Do you know if these remasters are going to be available on RBCD as well? I'd be interested in all of the above, but particularly in getting decent masters of the Tull material. The Crimso stuff is very listenable IMO.

Tim
It's all available on CD also if you wish; often cheaper too.
 

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Opeth "Damnation"

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Swedish metal band, semi-umplugged. Extraordinary musicianship and songwriting. The original recording on Koch is one of the best recordings I own.

If you want Opeth in all their electric glory, "Still LIfe" is extremely well recorded but difficult to get your hands on an original

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A/C "Back In Black" if you are old school....

Funk seems underrepresented as demo music. I use the following:

Dazz Band "Let It Whip" for Keep It Live
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Prince "Erotic City", B side of Let's Go Crazy 12" 45rpm single (NSFW)
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Prince "Let's Work", Controversy



Cameo "Word Up", Word Up
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Funk seems underrepresented as demo music. I use the following:

Dazz Band "Let It Whip" for Keep It Live
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Prince "Erotic City", B side of Let's Go Crazy 12" 45rpm single (NSFW)
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I've demo'ed with Theme from Shaft numerous times. The best sounding version might be on the Thorens 125th anniversary vinyl, with the 12" single by Stax coming in a close second.

One demo I've done (and won't do again because I've never ever seen a room clear out so fast) was Stylistics Heavy. Good album for review and design though - it sounds pretty terrible until the system is right.

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I'm not a metal fan, but they've got a hot female singer performing in Goth lingerie. If they're any good I'm surprised they're not huge.

Tim

They are pretty huge - just not among audiophiles. They toured with Guns 'n Roses, Evanescence and Marilyn Mason.
 

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King Crimson
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A few yrs ago I picked up the DVDA's of Red, Discipline, Islands, ITWOP and ITCOTCK thru the box set for the title. I also have the jp K2HD's.
 
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I believe there's a lot of music that goes unmentioned. I was sort of inspired by Gary Koh. Not that Gary would agree with my music preferences.:D

Other than the usual suspects, which albums do you want reviewers to listen to when reviewing gear? I'll kick it off:

Metallica, And Justice For All

Music used in my last 5 reviews:

Punch Brothers: Antifogmatic
Peter Gabriel: New Blood (24/48)
Joan Osborne: Love & Hate & Little Wild One
Led Zep I, II, II (96 Khz remasters)
Jack White Lazaretto
Pink Floyd: 20th Anniv Division Bell (96 Khz remaster)
Felipe De La Rosa: Flamenco Fever! (192 Khz & DSD needle drop)
Gino D'Auri: Flamenco Mystico
Coldplay: Ghost Stories
Smoke Fairies: Smoke Fairies
Stravinsky: Conducts Stravinsky-Le Sacre Du Printemps (7.5 IPS reel)
Nick Cave: Push the Sky Away
Pink Martini; Get Happy!
Chicago: II (96 Khz remaster)
Donovan: Greatest Hits (7.5 IPS reel)
Justin Currie: Lower Reaches
Van Morrison: His Band and Street Choir (192 Khz remaster)
Joan Baez: One Day At a Time (7.5 IPS reel)
Jack Bruce: Silver Rails
Maggie Bjorklund: Coming Home
 

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Andre beat me to the Jack White punch! These two White Stripes LPs will test dynamics:

Icky Thump

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Elephant

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hifitommy

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what i want the reviewers to be listening to and reporting on is music that first is good. then well recorded as actually most is. then a good array of vinyl (of all types including the two disc 45rpm releases which i don't usually buy myself, DTDs, and conventional), cd, sacd, dvda, bd, and of course-open reel tape (not that i can afford the tape project products). and there is enough music out there to keep it changed up in styles and types.

common CDs like fleetwood mac's rumours can sometimes show you something on a component such as happened to me fairly recently. listening on a speaker that utilizes an air motion transformer that can be crossed over to the woofage at 500 Hz, i heard guitar inflections and dynamic expression thereof that i just had never heard on that piece before in the hundreds of times i must have listened to it.

then there is midnight sugar by tsuoshi yamamoto that i first heard on rbcd and much later i bought the cisco release of two 45rpm vinyl discs. the piano transients that were entirely capable of knocking you off the couch proved to be even better on the LPs than the cd which was damned good to begin with.

i have some specific picks but i will leave that to the reviewers for now. oopsy, i almost forgot, the hirez downloads are superlative if costly (for me).
 
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i've really been enjoying the latest from Beck, Morning Phase. beautifully recorded and engineered (imo), and i think a good choice to illuminate the low end performance of a system.
 

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