Quad dsd....on the Golden Gate

[Audiophile Bill]

I just purchased -18- Quad dsd Challenge Classics dsd titles from Spirit of Turtle I should have over 50 Quad dsd titles now.

I previously had 7 Quad dsd download titles from Spirit of Turtle.

these are all DSD256 2 channel downloads. I'm told by Audiocrack that they are dxd (352.8 kHz) sourced.

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No messing about there Mike. Keen to know what are the standout recordings from the Challenge catalogue. Keep us posted.

 

[Mike Lavigne]

No messing about there Mike. Keen to know what are the standout recordings from the Challenge catalogue. Keep us posted.

thanks. Audiocrack has a thread on Challenge Classics, and he likely has a better grip on classical music than myself. Challenge Classics is local to him. I will certainly talk about my views on the recordings, but his views are invaluable.

 

[bonzo75]

Wow Mike that's cool

 

[marty]

I just purchased -18- Quad dsd Challenge Classics dsd titles from Spirit of Turtle I should have over 60 Quad dsd titles now.

I previously had 7 Quad dsd download titles from Spirit of Turtle.

these are all DSD256 2 channel downloads. I'm told by Audiocrack that they are dxd (352.8 kHz) sourced.

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So I'm confused. My general understanding is that conventional wisdom suggest playing the source in whatever format it was recorded in. For example I just downloaded 10 albums from native dsd.com. What they allow, is to see the format of the recording. If its DSD64, D128 or D256, that's the format I download. I never download the D256 version, even if its available, if the album was recorded in DSD64. And if the recording was in DXD, I never download a DSD variation. Does this make sense, or should I download everything in the highest resolution format available regardless of the source format with which it was recorded?
Marty
PS It seemed to me that native DSD.com was somewhat less expensive than Spirit of Turtle for the albums I downloaded, but that might be due in part to a 10% off internet special?

 

[bonzo75]

I would say get a native 64, it's 256 version, and see which you like. Same with DXD.

 

[Mike Lavigne]

So I'm confused. My general understanding is that conventional wisdom suggest playing the source in whatever format it was recorded in. For example I just downloaded 10 albums from native dsd.com. What they allow, is to see the format of the recording. If its DSD64, D128 or D256, that's the format I download. I never download the D256 version, even if its available, if the album was recorded in DSD64. And if the recording was in DXD, I never download a DSD variation. Does this make sense, or should I download everything in the highest resolution format available regardless of the source format with which it was recorded?
Marty
PS It seemed to me that native DSD.com was somewhat less expensive than Spirit of Turtle for the albums I downloaded, but that might be due in part to a 10% off internet special?

I did not get any 10% discount.

I am a complete believer in staying native if possible.

I bought no titles which were DSD64 based. only dxd based.

the titles I downloaded are dxd (352.8 kHz) sourced. I only downloaded the 'converted from dxd' Quad (256dsd) files.

on Monday I'm going to see what I need to do to then add the original native dxd files too. then I can compare playing the Quad files directly through my GG dsd dac to using JRiver to up-sample the dxd files to Quad.

in both cases there will be a conversion happening since my dac is not PCM and cannot do dxd natively. if I still had the Trinity dac that would not help me since (at this time) it's limited to 192/24 as it's highest sampling rate.

my ears will tell me which way is best.

 

[Audiocrack]

So I'm confused. My general understanding is that conventional wisdom suggest playing the source in whatever format it was recorded in. For example I just downloaded 10 albums from native dsd.com. What they allow, is to see the format of the recording. If its DSD64, D128 or D256, that's the format I download. I never download the D256 version, even if its available, if the album was recorded in DSD64. And if the recording was in DXD, I never download a DSD variation. Does this make sense, or should I download everything in the highest resolution format available regardless of the source format with which it was recorded?
Marty
PS It seemed to me that native DSD.com was somewhat less expensive than Spirit of Turtle for the albums I downloaded, but that might be due in part to a 10% off internet special?

In my Tidal LA set up I prefer the Challenge Classics dxd versions to the dsd 256 versions. To me the former sound more open and dynamic. The dsd 256 versions sound more laid back/softer, although the tonality of the latter is even more beautiful. That said, the the tonality of the CC dxd files are gorgeous as well.

Btw, Native dsd does not offer the CC files in dxd or dsd 256. They (only) offer the CC files in dsd 64.

 

[bmoura]

This sounds like a great upcoming gathering, Mike. Thanks for posting your recordings list. I am thrilled that you chose FOUR Yarlung albums for your session in June and I wanted to say thank you for including so much of our music. I hope your listening session goes well and that everyone has fun. Brian Moura followed up on your post, commenting on Raizes, one of Jared Sacks' recent recordings, and one of his first using the HAPI converter from Merging Technologies, which we use at Yarlung as well.

Raizes is a delight: pleasant Brazilan/Euro jazz. The music is well played and sung and one can relax into the hands of a master as Jared presents this music. The sound is superb, with bass (of which there is plenty) descending effortlessly into the floor without dampening anything in the upper frequencies. Beautifully balanced all around. Here is the direct link to Raizes. Enjoy!

Thanks again for the great list.

Bob Attiyeh
Yarlung Records
Yarlung Artists

Speaking of converting Analog Tapes to DSD 256 with the HAPI, another Analog to DSD 256 Stereo album I'd recommend for the June DSD 256 event would be the album by Cootie Williams & His Orchestra from HDTT.
It's a '50s era Stereo Big Band recording from RCA Victor that was transferred to DSD 256 by Bob Witak at HDTT using the HAPI. Very detailed and impressive.

David Robinson was playing the Cootie Williams album in DSD 256 at last year's The Show Newport on the Merging Technologies NADAC MC-8 DAC.
People were stopping in their tracks, coming into the Positive Feedback room and asking "what are you playing?" It's a grabber!

http://www.highdeftapetransfers.com...-cootie-williams-on-trumpet-and-his-orchestra
http://positive-feedback.com/review...uad-dsd-release-of-cootie-williams-in-stereo/

 

[Blue58]

Speaking of converting Analog Tapes to DSD 256 with the HAPI, another Analog to DSD 256 Stereo album I'd recommend for the June DSD 256 event would be the album by Cootie Williams & His Orchestra from HDTT.
It's a '50s era Stereo Big Band recording from RCA Victor that was transferred to DSD 256 by Bob Witak at HDTT using the HAPI. Very detailed and impressive.

David Robinson was playing the Cootie Williams album in DSD 256 at last year's The Show Newport on the Merging Technologies NADAC MC-8 DAC.
People were stopping in their tracks, coming into the Positive Feedback room and asking "what are you playing?" It's a grabber!

http://www.highdeftapetransfers.com...-cootie-williams-on-trumpet-and-his-orchestra
http://positive-feedback.com/review...uad-dsd-release-of-cootie-williams-in-stereo/

Another similarly fantastic sounding DSD download, albeit DSD64, is Duke Ellington's Blues in Orbit, though you could upsample to Quad/Octa.
https://m.highresaudio.com/artist.php?abid=569444

 

[bmoura]

Another similarly fantastic sounding DSD download, albeit DSD64, is Duke Ellington's Blues in Orbit, though you could upsample to Quad/Octa.
https://m.highresaudio.com/artist.php?abid=569444

I have both. I'd give Cootie's In Stereo the edge in sound quality.

 

[Mike Lavigne]

New Quad dsd files---Ilya Itin Debussy from Wave Kinetics

I've had samples of these for 6-7 months.

now I have both of these complete recordings, Book 1 and Book 2

likely the best digital files I have. amazing recordings.

http://store.acousticsounds.com/d/1...des_Book_1-DSD_Quad_Rate_112MHz256fs_Download

http://store.acousticsounds.com/d/1...des_Book_2-DSD_Quad_Rate_112MHz256fs_Download