Oh oh .... that is much more than just a bold statement .... ;-) ...
Am I wrong in/at/for thinking like that?
By the way, Welcome DDB to WBF! :b
Oh oh .... that is much more than just a bold statement .... ;-) ...
Am I wrong in/at/for thinking like that?
By the way, Welcome DDB to WBF! :b
Conserved on many great stereo record(ing)s from the 1950ies/60ies/70ies.
Fifty years ago, most acoustics from concert halls were very poor. Today we have some much better ones.
And forget it, 'bout music rock concerts and all those poor theaters or/& clubs where the sound is just a cacaphony of reverbs!
You can live in a place where there are no good places to serioulsy attend live music concerts with the right acoustics! So then you are slave to your own demise; at home trying to recreate it! :b
...But recreate the good ones (concert halls with the best acoustics).
And how would you know if you have never been there???
Audiophilia is a relative Living Presence; an interpretation, a brain recreation, a conjecture.
What I simply meant is that today we are in much better acoustic disposition
than what we were fifty years ago.
Just look at all the new concert hall designs, plus the renovations done on many older ones.
That is all.
Jeezzz, I only said "most".
Correct. It can never be "perfect" reproduction, but there is a certain standard of accuracy that can be achieved, by "due diligence", that is sufficient to fool the brain. This is an extremely worthy goal to pursue but the efforts to get there have been very sporadic, poorly understood and largely ignored. This is one of the great shames of the hobby, and industry ...A music system either reproduce the signal that corresponds to a specific instrument or group of instruments or it doesn't. This can be measured to certain degree. We are not at a point where we know everything that must be measured but we do know a few ...
Unfortunately Cyril Harris proved that acoustic equations for small halls don't apply to large halls. Also, don't place too much faith in acoustic measurements vis a vis the destruction of Carnegie Hall. The hall is but a shell of its once glorious self despite the claims about the hall measuring the same. Oh, and after the powers to be at Carnegie proclaiming the "new" hall to sonically equivalent (and they had all the charts and graphs to prove it), they found that the contractors had forgotten to remove the concrete construction slab after the rennovation. Oops
Very interesting Myles.
How many concert halls are there in the world? ...Large, and smaller ones.
And how acoustical measurements from fifty years ago translate to today's measurements?
...The mics used, the technics used, the computers used, the material used, etc., etc., etc.
Are we advancing, or going backwards?
I think the making of a great hall is more art than science For example, why is Vienna's Musikverein rated one of the top halls?
This paper is a good review of what goes into the acoustics of a hall!
http://www.leoberanek.com/pages/eightyeighthalls.pdf
Mister, you always give me links that take forever to load!
Anyway, it finally appeared and I strolled through it ...
It even mentioned Potter et all. ...Harry Potter?
Myles, that is a fantastic link (read)! Very cool of you to share this with us.
I did not read it in its entirety yet, but I surely will.
And how appropriate and on topic. ...1962 was exactly fifty years ago!
I am truly advancing... :b
I think the making of a great hall is more art than science For example, why is Vienna's Musikverein rated one of the top halls?
Later, with the bourgeoisie growing and the clamor for admission growing, music halls grew in size and width, and acousticians and architects had to devise stranger and stranger ploys to make the listening conditions acceptable. With wider halls, the propagation patterns just were no longer manageable, demanding instruments that produced stronger and stronger sound ... which makes an argument for the HIP recordings, actually, if it's authenticity one wants. But that's another matter.
it is enhanced by the nonlinear moving from the whole to the part...
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