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[the_nines]

@the_nines
A beautiful choice of woods! Really nice.

Your 401 looks right at home on top of the rack. Can you tell us about the plinth for the Garrard?

Thanks. The wood is all thanks to Trevor at Massif. I picked the species, he selected the planks.

As for the Garrard plinth, I built it myself. Five layers of Baltic Birch-ply, Maple Burl veneer, and a few coats of lacquer.

 

[T Boost]

Thanks for all these great stories and comments gentlemen.
That Bolivian rosewood is something else. I have an assortment of really amazing exotic tone woods right now, I’m really fortunate.

I understand that some folks believe wood can and will ruin the sound of their gear, of course I think that’s crazy talk but everyone , including me, has their own opinion and it’s sure easy to go down the hifi black hole with regard to materials.

 

[rangda]

Thanks for all these great stories and comments gentlemen.
That Bolivian rosewood is something else. I have an assortment of really amazing exotic tone woods right now, I’m really fortunate.

I understand that some folks believe wood can and will ruin the sound of their gear, of course I think that’s crazy talk but everyone , including me, has their own opinion and it’s sure easy to go down the hifi black hole with regard to materials.

That rack right there is my dream rack as far as aesthetics go. I love that combination of woods.

 

[T Boost]

That rack right there is my dream rack as far as aesthetics go. I love that combination of woods.

I save stuff like that for customers looking for something special. I have 2 sets of those legs right now. Mpingo legs on spalted maple or beech.

 

[SeagoatLeo]

i think another factor for sure is the floor. when you have a suspended wood floor then there is a mass loading factor which could be more at play to dampen the floor action. i say could be because you just cannot generalize just by looking. some wood floors have supports and shims underneath to remove the sag (which i did to good result in my previous home with my 600 pound Rockport Sirius III turntable). and every building is different.

so in Peter's case those steel plates might be doing much more than if he had a concrete floor. those steel plates are working with the wood rack to attain a result. obviously the AS-2000 is also doing damping of the floor. i cannot recall Peter's very beautiful and vintage wood floor story.

it's all at play and the floor is always a consideration. thick steel plates + a concrete floor might = different result (too dead). have to try it and listen. not plug and play.

My floor is basically vibration free. Poured 12" thick, 3000 psi, 3/4" steel bar reinforced concrete. My problem is the 90 oz. plush carpet and despite stating anti-static, Audioquest fog lifters made a significant improvement from rubber pucks. I came to this forum because I am currently using a 1.25" thick HDF board on 4 1980s aluminum carpet piercing cones under my pair of WL REI amps. I can do better.

 

[MarkusBarkus]

...I have four Reis on Black Diamond Racing carbon platforms (2 each), but I'll bet a Symposium platform on those cones would be nice, @SeagoatLeo

 

[KrellFan1]

Chiming in to say I'm another happy Massif customer re: amp stand for our Pass Labs X250.8 amp. Trevor was great to work with, wicked patient w/ considerable Q&A. Amazingly protective shipping. Highly recommended.View attachment 141275

Hi everyone; rather than begin a new thread I thought I'd respond here with my question relating to this #PassLabs X250.8. I have a Krell Duo 300XD currently, and I am considering trading it for this Pass Labs. Are there any members out there who might have had the experience of having heard BOTH units for the purpose of comparison. Naturally not interested in making a lateral move but rather an upgrade. Other option ( Think) is the X350.8 but feel that might be overkill. I am driving very efficient Dynaudio Confidence C2's ( 4 ohm) speakers.

My room is 19 X 16 with 8 foot ceilings as I know the topic of headroom would come up.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Mike Lavigne]

Hi everyone; rather than begin a new thread I thought I'd respond here with my question relating to this #PassLabs X250.8. I have a Krell Duo 300XD currently, and I am considering trading it for this Pass Labs. Are there any members out there who might have had the experience of having heard BOTH units for the purpose of comparison. Naturally not interested in making a lateral move but rather an upgrade. Other option ( Think) is the X350.8 but feel that might be overkill. I am driving very efficient Dynaudio Confidence C2's ( 4 ohm) speakers.

My room is 19 X 16 with 8 foot ceilings as I know the topic of headroom would come up.

Thanks in advance.

hi Krellfan,

if you want any response then go to the separate amplifier forum and either find a more relevant thread to post on, or start your own thread. this is a rack thread and the odds are small that you will get much response as it's not relevant to the topic. someone would have to accidentally stumble on your post who is looking at vibration control/rack info. even if you get one response follow ups by others are unlikely.

or find someone who has the gear you are asking about and PM them. most here will enjoy helping.

good luck.