Late for the Sky-an Ebay hose job

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I recently bought a copy of Jackson Brown’s “Late for the Sky” LP off of Ebay. The seller listed it as E+. I received the LP last week and it was a horror show. The seller must have graded the LP in a dark closet with both eyes closed. The vinyl was in horrible condition on both sides with scratches and swirls everywhere. One quick look at the label told the story.

This LP had the original owner’s initials written on the label (the seller left that part out). For those of you old enough to remember, in the good old days, people who took their records to a party wrote their initials on the label so at the end of the night, there was no confusion over whose records belonged to whom. Based on the extensive damage to the vinyl, it appeared this LP had spent much time on a record changer (remember those?). One LP drops onto a spinning platter which causes marks. The second LP drops down on top of the first spinning LP which causes marks to both LPs. And so on and so on until both sides of every LP are ruined.

So I send the seller an email and ask him if he graded this LP in a closet or if he was just blind in one eye and couldn’t see out of the other. The seller tells me somehow he is mystified at the condition I described the LP to be in and he overlooked the writing on the label. He tells me to send it back and he will refund my money. He then sends me a second email and tells me that his policy is not to refund money. He asks me to send him my phone number so we can have a little chat and see if he has another LP I might want.

I reply back that I don’t want to give him my phone number as we have nothing to talk about. Based on how he grades LPs, there is nothing he has that I would want or trust. I told him that either he is going to refund my money or I would just throw the LP in the trash where it belongs and forget about it. He replies back that he will refund my money, but he wants his LP back. Fine.

The seller refunded my money and I sent the LP back to him (which was a waste of my time since it’s junk). I send the seller an email and tell him his LP is on the way back to him. He asks me if I have a confirmation number for his precious jewel as apparently he is really worried about this LP coming back to him. I guess he is worried that I’m trying to beat him out of his money and keep the LP. I told him not to worry, the treasure was on its way back to him and I hoped he would throw it in the trash where it belongs and not resell it again and waste anyone else’s time.

I have bought more than a few LPs on Ebay in the past and have always been very pleased. This guy had really good feedback which is why I was surprised at the horrid condition of the LP. I bought two more copies on Ebay and hopefully one of them will be good this time.
 
Hi Mark,

Buying tapes on Ebay isn't much better,but I can't complain. The latest fiasco was a Everest 4 track,that was in a 2 track box but on a 4 track reel,the tape though was a recording of the Everest recording taken off a NPR broadcast.imagine that!
 
Sorry to hear that Mark... the first thing i thought about was you describing the the old record changers that stack one on top of the other. Guess they didn't worry about VTA in those days either. Just think what the VTA would have been on top of a stack of about 10 or 15 albums! Geezzz...
 
Sorry to hear about your troubles. Unfortunately, only solution is to leave negative feedback...sometimes that prompts the seller to do the right thing.
 
Sorry, Mark. Apparently, this type of irresponsibility is rampant. I once bought a EC copy of a London FFSS pressing from a reputable used LP dealer (Ars Antiqua). When the LP arrived, it was the FFRR (inferior) copy. I contacted the company and they accused me of switching out their FFSS copy for my old FFRR and trying to send it back for a refund. They then took me off their mailing list. So, they must have encountered this type of scam quite often.

Lee
 
This was more about wasting my time than wasting my money, and I did get my money back. I have never left anyone negative feedback on Ebay before even though some deserved it. In the old days, if you left a seller negative feedback, they could turn right around and slam you back. My feedback rating is perfect both on Ebay and Audiogon and I take that seriously. When I sell or buy something, I want people to take it to the bank that they can trust me.
 

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