Are you sure it sounds like that?

[Rhapsody]

Why Everyone Hears The Same Sounds Differently - KnowledgeNuts

It turns out that the almost endless arguments over the merits of a certain song or certain band might all stem from something physical. Different people really do sometimes hear the same sounds in entirely different ways. Even the smallest differences in our individual skull structure or bone...

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[thedudeabides]

Seems pretty obvious. We all hear differently.

 

[stehno]

Why Everyone Hears The Same Sounds Differently - KnowledgeNuts

It turns out that the almost endless arguments over the merits of a certain song or certain band might all stem from something physical. Different people really do sometimes hear the same sounds in entirely different ways. Even the smallest differences in our individual skull structure or bone...

knowledgenuts.com

Yes, we all hear things differently. But don't we also see things differently, react to situations differently, think differently, etc? In the classroom, we all take the same exam, yet our grades are so vastly different.

Hence, I'm unsure what your point is here. My guess is, for those with reasonably unimpaired hearing, we're all actually hearing much the same thing sonically but our brains interpret those sounds so vastly different. IOW, it's a developed skill, not an inherited one.

In the end, I'm guessing it's not too unlike the classroom exam. An A on the exam is the pinnacle. Many are capable but only some achieve it, others are striving toward it, some can never achieve it, and some are content with settling for less and sometimes far less.

Not saying you, but all too often it seems arguments such as this in high-end audio come across as more of an excuse for not striving to improve our ability to discern / interpret what we hear. Which I'm convinced is by far high-end audio's greatest weakness. And no, I'm not trying to imply I've achieved "it", but I certainly hope I'm routinely striving to improve it. After all, without the ability to sufficiently discern / interpret what we hear, what makes our listening sessions any different than that of a 5-year old's?

 

[Rhapsody]

Yes, we all hear things differently. But don't we also see things differently, react to situations differently, think differently, etc? In the classroom, we all take the same exam, yet our grades are so vastly different.

Hence, I'm unsure what your point is here. My guess is, for those with reasonably unimpaired hearing, we're all actually hearing much the same thing sonically but our brains interpret those sounds so vastly different. IOW, it's a developed skill, not an inherited one.

In the end, I'm guessing it's not too unlike the classroom exam. An A on the exam is the pinnacle. Many are capable but only some achieve it, others are striving toward it, some can never achieve it, and some are content with settling for less and sometimes far less.

Not saying you, but all too often it seems arguments such as this in high-end audio come across as more of an excuse for not striving to improve our ability to discern / interpret what we hear. Which I'm convinced is by far high-end audio's greatest weakness. And no, I'm not trying to imply I've achieved "it", but I certainly hope I'm routinely striving to improve it. After all, without the ability to sufficiently discern / interpret what we hear, what makes our listening sessions any different than that of a 5-year old's?

I read an article that I thought was worth sharing. I thought it was interesting that the shape of our skull, the size of our ears and ear canals all made a difference as well as the other mentioned physical attributes that made a difference on the way the sound is delivered to our brain.

Prior, I had never thought about the physical attributes of the physical anatomy having an effect on what we hear.

I did not comment as I was not making a point. If I was making a point, I would have stated it.

 

[HughP3]

Supports my contention why people like disparately different speakers. On size does not fit all.

 

[Rhapsody]

Supports my contention why people like disparately different speakers. On size does not fit all.

Supports my contention why people like disparately different speakers. On size does not fit all.

Not right now with Covid, but I normally do MANY demos each week. I always observe how different people react differently to the same or different speakers. I always thought, and I think it's mostly the case, that people just either like or don't like a speaker/system. I did think that due to different "filters" that we all have that their perception of the sound was different from another person, but it never dawned on me that because of our head shape, ear shape etc actually made a difference in the way we were hearing something. I did find it interesting.

 

[Bobvin]

After all, without the ability to sufficiently discern / interpret what we hear, what makes our listening sessions any different than that of a 5-year old's?

Personally, while I strive to get a sound I enjoy (and have gone to some lengths to that end), I’d have no problem experiencing the same wonder and joy of a 5-year old each and every time I listened!

 

[Bobvin]

Bob, does this mean you'll be covertly scanning your client's heads and then offering speakers based on size of cranium or ears?

 

[rbbert]

There is already another thread discussing this, started by Octopus I think, but I don't have a link immediately at hand

 

[stehno]

Personally, while I strive to get a sound I enjoy (and have gone to some lengths to that end), I’d have no problem experiencing the same wonder and joy of a 5-year old each and every time I listened!

I'm not aware anybody mention our striving to get a sound we enjoy. Nor am I aware of any mention about the wonders and joys of being a 5-year old.

But I'm sure a point was made somewhere.