added a 3rd Studer A-820 Mk2 with both 1/4" and 1/2" heads, guides and hubs

[christensenleif@msn.com]

or buy an A80RC

 

[Foxbat]

Presumably, we are talking about someone who already has the A810.

I think I would consider such an option.

 

[christensenleif@msn.com]

sell the A810 and get an A80 instead and the reel capacity
or just keep both

 

[Foxbat]

Some people have space consideration. I have two A810's simply because I like the way they are built. And I already have the A80.

It is not that easy to go out and find a nice clean A80RC for a reasonable price.

On top of that, the A80 is not exactly the top of the heap in terms of its sound quality - hence the "Stellavox and Friends" project. In which case getting your A810 sound better than A80RC for some reasonable coin is a wonderful deal... seems to me.

 

[christensenleif@msn.com]

hard in Europe too, but I guess easier than in the US
The MTSL A80 RC is a different animal than the stock one....

 

[andromedaaudio]

You speak with such conviction, so just one question: have you done such a comparison yourself? Please, no "How the records are made" nonsense, just holding a modern tape in your hands, have you played it two ways: trough the internal electronics and then through a good head preamp?

First of all you should put your industry affiliation in your signature , like they all do here
You are either working / owner /designing electronics for BAT , so you obviously have a commercial interest as to why an upgraded or a standalone tape pre would sound better then a studer card .

Secondly i spend way to much money on recent audiophile labels/ tapes which were recorded with " modified " audiophile recording / playback equipment to even consider an outboard pre my self .
If i would have heard a significant upgrade in sound from those tapes i would consider it , but the result was far from that .
I have a tubed bufferstage thats all , designed by eternal arts in germany

 

[Foxbat]

I can't comment on them, since I never had one.

In the meantime I discovered an area in my head preamps that could use some improvement. Not something that I can hear, but definitely stuff I can see on spectrum analyzer. So I will have to rework the four I already have in service, and possibly the two I have in different stages of completion.

 

[christensenleif@msn.com]

I tried a tubed buffer stage on my A80 as well, but it just got another flavor, so I think it needs to be done directly from heads, but htey need to have the correct inductance for the longer wiring....

 

[andromedaaudio]

Nobody shitting on stock Studers andro. I think the tone people used commenting on stock vs non-stock and discussion on this thread so far is polite enough non sarcasm no where near the tone many used to comment in Wilson and Magico thread. Also Why would everything from 50s 60s are best of the best. Todays audio is best of the best too imo. Only up to who is listening.

Tang you are the one who is always praising those old LP recordings together with Peter DDK and Ked ( only ked doesnt have recordplayer as far as i know which is a slight problem )

 

[bonzo75]

Tang you are the one who is always praising those old recordings together with Peter DDK and Ked ( only ked doesnt have recordplayer as far as i know which is a slight problem )

Through those speakers of yours I doubt you will hear any difference if you had one. As far as I am concerned you lack total experience, here on this thread you are the only one trying to argue strongly with conviction trying to teach circuits to the CEO of BAT, arguing with Leif who has a system 100x yours (I have heard both), keep it up. The problem is your awful speakers, your lack of exposure, and your lack of humility

 

[Foxbat]

First of all you should put your industry affiliation in your signature , like they all do here
You are either working / owner /designing electronics for BAT , so you obviously have a commercial interest as to why an upgraded or a standalone tape pre would sound better then a studer card .

I did not know there was a requirement for sig. I am not hiding my affiliation, but I also don't feel like using it in an argument. As I stated many times, my work with tape decks is strictly a hobby, no affiliated in any way with my company.

Just for clarity, there is absolutely no commercial interest, as we are not producing head preamps, and, as I also openly stated many times, we have no such plans. If that changes in some future, then I will definitely follow up with proper steps.

 

[andromedaaudio]

so I think

I actually bought those " special" tapes .
And the only thing some of them are good for is erasing the tape and use them for dubbing

 

[andromedaaudio]

Through those speakers of yours I doubt you will hear any difference if you had one. As far as I am concerned you lack total experience, here on this thread you are the only one trying to argue strongly with conviction trying to teach circuits to the CEO of BAT, arguing with Leif who has a system 100x yours (I have heard both), keep it up. The problem is your awful speakers, your lack of exposure, and your lack of humility

If there is one arrogant on this forum thats you ked .

Look if people were so smart here design your own tape tapemachine .
Taking some else his design and modifying it a bit , lol

 

[christensenleif@msn.com]

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so I think

talk about taking a quote out of context....must be some sort of world record......

 

[andromedaaudio]

I did not know there was a requirement for sig. I am not hiding my affiliation

There is a requirement on this forum

 

[christensenleif@msn.com]

andromedeaaudio...you´re making a complete arse of yourself....relax.....

 

[bonzo75]

andromedeaaudio...you´re making a complete arse of yourself....relax.....

in this context you can use the word natural. He is a natural.

 

[andromedaaudio]

andromedeaaudio...you´re making a complete arse of yourself....relax.....

I speak my opinion based on my experience thats all , nothing wrong with that

 

[Foxbat]

There is a requirement on this forum

I just checked the rules and did not see it there. I am OK either way, so I will leave this up to the moderator.

 

[Foxbat]

I speak my opinion based on my experience thats all , nothing wrong with that

Well, I asked you a direct question, on whether you have done such direct comparisons.

Your response was evasive at best. So I presume you don't have any experience with head preamps, but for some (personal?) reason you dislike them.

I have done such direct comparison on at least 4 or 5 machines.