Thanks for the update. I've got my fingers crossed (all of them; toes, too!).Yes we have the I/O’s but not the accompanying silver server chassis. Those were promised to be delivered before the Christmas holidays, but weren’t ofcourse. In stead they only started working on them this Monday with a Friday delivery promise.
Introducing Olympus & Olympus I/O - A new perspective on modern music playback
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Oldmustang misunderstood what I wrote. It was not about one's preference but about the objective reference for SQ. I said it clearly that one's home system can never reproduce the concert hall experience (among other reasons, it is simply because recording microphones are not placed at row 30 or the balcony to record the reflection acoustics or the hall ambience). Recording is made in front of the singer or player (or mixed at the conductor's level for a large orchestra with multi-miking). The best and in many people's view a home system can do is to faithfully reproduce the sound captured by the microphones. To test whether such reproduction is successful (relatively at best), one needs to attend live performances - experienced only at very close range or nearfield - to re-calibrate one's ears. Do the strings sound like the strings experienced in front of them (say, a string quartet) with all the details (the gliding of the bows, the sss sizzling, etc., the timbre, etc.)? Same for other instruments with the minute details of attack and leading edge. Otherwise, what is the objective standard for home system? Your own preference? Emile's preference? The most linear, jittery-reduced system is the one sounding closest to live music experienced in nearfield.
You are generalizing here. Maybe this is true for the music you listen to. There is an endless number of recordings made with microphones in various locations in the hall which do a pretty job of representing what the hall sounds like.
I have never experienced such recordings in my 16TB library. I'd have none of them or component trying to emulate hall ambience. Each to himself.
I don’t’ know what the “each to himself” means. I was merely pointing out that if one wanted to compare a live hall sound to the sound in their room there are endless recordings out there. Whether you have them in your collection or not is irrelevant.
Having said that (that live music experienced at nearfield should be the reference point for one's home system), I have to admit that often I get better listening experience from my home system simply because I did not have the luxury of experiencing concerts at nearfield. Just for the sake of having been there, I was sitting in a corner in the second balcony of Amsterdam's famed Concertgebouw (said to be one of the best sounding halls in the world) and did not get much out of it. Same for the Vienna State Opera House way up in the fourth balcony; same for the Met Opera House several times. But enjoyed the hall acoustics of the Boston Symphony Hall (another outstanding hall) for the hall experience (which can never be reproduced at home). The best or most optimal seat in a hall or opera house is impossible to obtain - suspended from the ceiling 3 meters over and in front of the stage platform. That's why the recordings, especially video recordings, are so important to me, which are reproduced as captured by the microphones. The best equipment is one that reproduces the microphone-captured sound as transparently as possible, enabling us to hear all the minute details.
My response was to Oldmustang, and not as a continuation of your (slightly boring) debate
No desire on my part either. Each to himself and let's leave it at that because we were talking of different matters.My response was to Oldmustang, and not as a continuation of your (slightly boring) debate
The balcony seats at the Concertgebouw are for sure not the 'premium' spots, how things sound also is vastly impacted by which musician(s) is/are playing. (Generally I opt for row 16-18 ).
There are plenty live recordings that reflect the venue, f.e. one on Quobuz is Arcadi Volods Vienna concert where you get a good whiff of the venue, I've heard him play in my home town and the 'coloratura' of his playing and him playing with overtones he produces in the acoustic of the venue is clearly present on that recording (be it at a different venue)
Like the word "whiff" because even closely miked recording captures some of the room or hall acoustics. I don't have any firsthand experience of recording, but can see that microphones are placed very close to the players from the many video recordings. Some recordings sound so live even when it was done in the late 1950s; others so dead even done yesterday (with 24/192 or DSD256). Recording is art as well as science, I guess.
Addendum: thinking about it: in fact recording, even if closely miked, cannot help capturing room or hall acoustics a lot. I have in mind 2 famed recordings by Gunter Wand/NDRSO conducting and playing Bruckner symphonies live in Lubeck Cathedral, which unavoidably reflected the reverberating church acoustics. The 1987 Bruckner 8 is phenomenal as a performance and also as a recording: the cathedral acoustics was beautifully and masterly managed, working wonders especially in the ending minutes of the divine third movement (the more drawned-out sound of French horns intertwining with a solo clarinet and strings). But the 1988 live, a year later, in the same Lubeck Cathedral of the Bruckner 9 - one of the greatest performances - was not recorded well; the echo of the cathedral acoustics was so pronounced and lengthy that it smeared the orchestral lines. Puzzle why, and a shame, the feat was not repeated.
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Emile,@ray-dude , it was an absolute pleasure meeting you in person, thank you for brightening our Sunday/Monday
A quick question for all those who’ve tried the analog output, what is your opinion on the output level / gain? Would you prefer it to be lower/higher or is it just right?
My favorite speaker whisperer and analog (TT) manufacturer will be visiting the week of the January 27th to optimize and compare the XDMI analog out, XDMI digital out to totalDac sublime, and Kodo the Beat TT. All sources will feed a CHP L10 preamp that has variable input gain that will be adjusted for each source. I will provide some feedback on the the analog output gain from them at the time.
I’d suggest this topic be moved somewhere else so we can stick to the Olympus here
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"The Olympus and Olympus I/O come with adjustable and removable footers made of Acrylic material, that screw into the chassis. The chassis has four recesses, 8mm (about 0.31 in) deep and with a 90mm (about 3.54 in) diameter, fitted with an M6 (6mm) thread. The M6 thread provides compatibility with M6-equipped aftermarket footers."
The manual goes on to say not to position aftermarket footers anywhere other than in the recesses provided for the stock footers or risk damage to internal parts due to the load being concentrated in areas other than where the chassis was designed for load bearing.
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I know some of you in greater LA area. Wishing you, your families and friends safety in the face of these fires. Stay safe
I installed my new MSB module last PM (also removed the internal music storage drive). Closed it up and restarted. All LED's are on steady but Roon server does not show up. I have tried re-booting to no avail. Anyone have any ideas about how to get Roon server to restart? I have written Taiko support but I think they are a little behind as I have had no answer from them overnight.
Here is a picture of my drive card after removing the storage (the position of my music storage drive was different than what was shared earlier). You should check that you did not remove the Optane drive
This is how mine without music storage is arranged too. I also understood the instructions as reversed.
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