Yes, you are letting your wild imagination get the best of you. Are you still om medication?
My Burmester gear? I am trying to figure out how to put it into words. The Burmester seems ballsier but the Dartzeel seems more natural and less electronic. Less grainy possibly? Can it be my imagination?
My Burmester gear? I am trying to figure out how to put it into words. The Burmester seems ballsier but the Dartzeel seems more natural and less electronic. Less grainy possibly? Can it be my imagination?
Hi Joe. Been off the site for a few days...crazy tough at work. crazy tough. as for Dartzeel v Burmester...are you using the exact same system other than swapping amps? i would have guessed Burmester is a very powerful, natural sound with strong macrodynamics (which gives powerful impression)...perhaps the Dartzeel a bit less powerful sounding, and seemingly therefore more 'nuanced'. Is that what you are saying?
Not at all. Even before you received your Burmester, I posted in one of the threads that I thought you'd be getting rid of them instead of the 108
Enjoy, you have one of the finest amps in the world
alexandre
Indeed. I haven't heard the TADs, but it has a reputation as a very accurate and "truthful" speaker. And that's precisely what the darTZeel electronics are So it's a good match there.
I've also tested numerous amplifiers, most of them more powerful than the 108, and I've always ended up going back to the 108. All the testing made me realize the 108 isn't perfect, as some of these other amps did things better than the 108 can, mostly due to its 100/160W, but the 108 always produced the most pleasant sound on a wide variety of (non-audiophile) recordings.
If you want perfect, the 458 is there for you
Did you try to get the darTZeel preamp for a test drive?
alexandre
My Burmester gear? I am trying to figure out how to put it into words. The Burmester seems ballsier but the Dartzeel seems more natural and less electronic. Less grainy possibly? Can it be my imagination?
Joe,
You're not comparing your Burmester setup with my NAD!
If you compare it with other top reference class products, I guess there's nothing strange in preferring the GAT/Dart couple to the Burmester one (and this doesn't mean Burmester is not good...)
If I were you, I'd try to shrink down to a unique system. I'd probably be more curious to test the Dart preamp rather than double the power amps...
Hi Lloyd,
I think what you are saying is a big part of it. The Dart may be a little more forgiving. My TAD's, to me and my ears, are very revealing as I've said before and while Burmester may be more truthful/accurate, I just enjoy the Dart/TAD combo. With the 077 as the preamp, the Dart leans back to more truthful. Put the GAT on the Dart and I love the warmer than neutral, dimensional and layered sound I get. I feel the Dart with the TADs are less analytical and more musical. Add the GAT/Dart/TAD and it's like "Wow!", I really like what I am hearing.
Joe ,
What is the digital source you are using? You are choosing a system, all parts, even the cables participate in the final result and its appreciation. IMHO, at same time you have to get some anchor components in your system and built it around them. Otherwise it is a never ending process.
And yes, the Darzeel loves to be paired with the matching preamplifier.
One of the best systems I've heard was the TAD Ref One with the Dart amp. I was really quite surprised how this pair matched-up. Now, here is the part no one is going to believe. When we took-out the Dart preamp, connected with its special connector, and replaced it with the BAT Rex using an XLR cable, the sound was incredible. It had the clarity of the Dart, but the weight, texture, depth, and dynamics of the BAT. It was synergy. The Dart pairing was polite and clear, the Dart with BAT Rex preamp let the system really relax and become great fun. So much for conventional wisdom.
Very interesting...if i may 'totally guess'...it sounds like the BAT Rex/Dart combination resembles the description Joe gives of his GAT/Dart combination.
My Burmester gear? I am trying to figure out how to put it into words. The Burmester seems ballsier but the Dartzeel seems more natural and less electronic. Less grainy possibly? Can it be my imagination?
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