I find his comments there perfectly reasonable. Is there something in that that you still find unacceptable?
I thought my earlier post was quite clear. I'll try again.
After mep characterized Amir as a digital couch potato, amir replied
"Let's not characterize each other please. We don't like digital because we are lazy. We like it because we are smart!!! We like it because we love music and can get so much more of it by having instant access. When I buy a CD, it is rare that every track is good. Digital lets me skip over instantly to something else I like. I am not a slave to the equipment. The equipment is a slave to me. As it should."
After another round from mep, Tim said
"False characterization. Do we enjoy the convenience? Of course. But I don't think you'll find any digital proponents in this dialectic who abandoned their turntables for convenience alone. Quite the opposite. If I thought vinyl sounded better, I would have kept my turntable and my album collection for my best quality listening sessions and used digital for casual, convenient and portable listening. Just like so many vinyl users here do."
mep replied to each of those posts. Having read each person's objection to his characterization of them, he then said
"The flip side of your viewpoint is that numerous people have made it quite clear they gave up on analog simply because it has zero convenience associated with it and it gets in the way of them being able to listen to music at the push of a button. "
So who are these people who gave up on LPs "simply because it has zero convenience"? Certainly not Amir or Tim. Certainly not me. Where are the posts where these people made it "quite clear" why they gave up on analog? I scanned this whole thread and I didn't find any posts that fit mep's claim.
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I have read a number of posts by mep in this thread that I felt mis-characterized what other people had said. I had refrained from commenting this last post. Here is a sample of mep's posts in this thread:
"Out of all the measurements that people who love measurements use to discredit analog over their precious digital,"
"we have had the "convenience" discussion before and analog is not for the digital couch potatoes. I agree 1000x over that digital is much more convenient than analog. Digital has now approached the stage that it takes very little user involvement in order to access and play your music library. And for some if not many, that puts them in the land of milk and honey. I can't believe there are now services for the digital couch potatoes who can't be bothered to rip their own music collections and the service does it for them. The next step on the digital horizon will be an intuitive interaction between you and your digital file server. You will just have to think of a song and it will start to play. Or it will read your mind when you enter the room and figure out what you’re in the mood for and start its own song list for you. Man, wouldn't that be something?"
"As long as the measurements show no apparent flaws, they leave you clueless as to how something will sound in your house. Even Tim who has never seen a measurement that he didn't like has had to return products that he bought based on their measurements/specifications because they didn't sound good in his home."
"Sometimes I forget that you are listening through a $150 Pioneer receiver and I need to keep that in mind in order to put your comments in perspective."
[ Ethan mostly commented about theory, experiment and measurement. That information doesn't depend on the price of your gear.]
"For those of you who hate all things analog-I get it and I for one am not trying to make converts out of any of you."
"I am just personally tired of someone always saying that everything we needed to know about measuring audio has been known for 50 years and if we don't understand that we are thick."
"And I would submit that most people who did sell their tables and record collections off never had a really good table/arm/cartridge in the first place. And the few that did, I bet there are some that have some regrets and wish they had it back."
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Now, perhaps you can convince me that mep's posts are in the spirit of a dialectic. Sounds like a crusade to me.
This thread was supposed to be about truth and tonality. It got hijacked to be yet another "analog is best" crusade.
Bill