The XS series of amps allow you to keep power amp lights off via switch.
Now that is a good reason to upgrade.
The XS series of amps allow you to keep power amp lights off via switch.
I am out of this site and all other audiophile forums. Way to many nut cases for the rational person.
What's your beef with Reno Hifi? Marketing of high end audio has been changing for quite a while now. Everyone is trying to find out what works best for them. Some are selling direct on forums. Others like Spectral and Magico use traditional dealerships. Frankly, I'm surprised that more companies are not trying to copy Reno's successful approach to selling gear. Mark is a great guy. He knows the equipment and has a lot of experience. He answers emails and phone calls, and he is willing to give great advice. His customer service is superb. Home demos are low risk and convenient. Prices are fair. I think Reno has a good business model.
There seem to be fewer and fewer actual dealers of expensive audio gear. And some customers at the ultra high end simply go to the manufacturer to audition. Then, the closest dealer handles the transaction, installation and service. I heard AJ Conti's latest tables and arms in his shop and compared Transparent cables directly to each other at the factory's R & D listening room.
I don't know the numbers behind various dealers' businesses, so I will not speculate as to whether or not they are being "killed". I do not know who the current President of Pass Labs is. I do know that Mark's father sadly died a couple of years ago and he was involved with the company.
Often there is a fine line between friendships and business deals. I'm sure many members here consider some dealers and manufacturers to be friends. I consider the head of sales at Goodwins High End to be my friend, even though I have not bought anything from him. I know that Ron Resnick considered A.J. Conti his friend. And I am sure that Steve Williams considers many of the customers of his Center Stage footers to be his closest friends. It is a small industry and hobby and there are many friendships.
I fail to see the point of your post.
What's your beef with his beef? I fail to see the reason for your diatribe chock full of objections. Someone can't be unhappy about a site's long term price availability disappearing in a world where brick and mortar is all by dead and full details and pricing are commonly available via the web? I could care less who's friends with whom, should that change his opinion? I don't blame him for leaving, way to grow WBF....
Hi sbo6. I don't mind his objection to not being able to see prices on the Reno HiFi website. Based on Don's three posts on page one of this thread, he seems to have objections beyond just not seeing the prices published. That is why I asked him what his beef was with Reno HiFi. It appears to me that he has many more objections about Reno and Pass too, and he is wrong about at least one of his assertions, so I asked him about it. I am sorry if you think my post is driving potential members away from the forum. That is certainly not my intention. Happy Thanksgiving.
After your reply, Don complained about meters, etc (post partially deleted?) and he proceeded to leave WBF whereby everyone bashed him and jumped to your defense.
I can not speak for the other members who posted in this thread, but I think a portion of the them felt insulted and reacted in response to his comments. I suppose that near unanimity can be viewed as a gang action, but I honestly think that misconstrues the situation.
Don was clearly not happy being a part of this forum and decided to leave the forum.
I apologize for the tone of my posts to Don, and the attitude with which I expressed by frustration. Perhaps I spend too much time discussing things on audio forums and not enough time listening to music and enjoying my gear.
BTW, I don't understand either why Reno Hi-Fi took down all the prices from their website. Mark may have his reasons, such as the one Christian suggested:
http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showt...-their-website&p=480124&viewfull=1#post480124
Pass has just released the new XP12 and XP22 preamps and the XP17 phono with the XP27 phono coming soon. I think these have some of the trickle down technology from the XS series. Exciting times for Pass fans.
Al, I contacted Mark at Reno HiFi and asked him this very question, the subject of the thread. Christian had the answer, more or less, all along. Here is Marks response to me:
"Happy Thanksgiving Weekend Peter!
It’s always nice to hear from you and I’m happy to help with anything I can.
You have my permission to let the world know that that the reason I removed the prices from our website is that we want our clients and prospective clients to engage with us more. As I wrote on the website a long time ago “Reno Hi Fi is not a vending machine;” we want to help people get the amp that is really what they want for their application and tastes; and with a two-way discussion, I can better help audiophiles to this end."
Mark's communication is excellent and he is always willing to answer questions about Pass products. As I suspected, he is quite busy in his new facility. The website is being redesigned and will be updated. Pass has just released the new XP12 and XP22 preamps and the XP17 phono with the XP27 phono coming soon. I think these have some of the trickle down technology from the XS series. Exciting times for Pass fans.
I guess this answers Don's original question, though it does not address some of his other complaints. If he still has concerns, they may be best answered by Mark directly at Reno HiFi. Contact information is on the Reno HiFi website. He can also contact Pass Labs directly with technical questions. They are also very willing to talk on the phone or answer emails. As I wrote earlier, customer service is excellent with both companies.
http://store.acousticsounds.com/a/10853/Pass_Labs
Looks like I see some prices listed. Problem solved.
Thanks Joe from posting this link. I did not know that acoustic sounds sells Pass gear. I wonder how they could compete with Reno HiFi given inventory, used/demo options, and Mark's incredible knowledge of the products.
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