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Did you carry a detailed comparison between the 911 mk3 and the XA200.5?

Not really, and I don't care to either. Love both amps, different tonal characters to be sure. Pass amps sound a little more tubey than the Burmester.

And as far as the HVAC thing goes, it just seems kind of silly to run AC all day long and run a pair of amps drawing 2000 watts all day long in the summertime. The climate here in the Northwest is mild enough that I don't need AC otherwise. Having the XA200.5s on 12 hours a day actually eliminates the need for heat in the spring/winter/fall season.
 

Frank750

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I'm still loving my XA200.5s. The XS300s have me concerned in terms of heat, current draw on the power conditioner, and price. I probably couldn't listen to music from May through October with that kind of heat, as the XA200.5s are uncomfortable enough during the summer for short listens.

They're not that bad. I think the heat issue is overblown. I've been living comfortably with the XS300 since the beginning of August 2012. I do suggest bypassing any type of power conditioner though. I had a 220 line going into a Torus 60A conditioner and the Pass amps connected to it. It wasn't until I removed the Torus and connected each amp to it's own dedicated 20a circuit that they reached their full potential.
 

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Not really, and I don't care to either. Love both amps, different tonal characters to be sure. Pass amps sound a little more tubey than the Burmester.

And as far as the HVAC thing goes, it just seems kind of silly to run AC all day long and run a pair of amps drawing 2000 watts all day long in the summertime. The climate here in the Northwest is mild enough that I don't need AC otherwise. Having the XA200.5s on 12 hours a day actually eliminates the need for heat in the spring/winter/fall season.

Oh. I don't have the luxury of listening to my stereo for 12 hours a day as I have to work from Monday through Friday away from home. Probably running my KSA-250 for 12 hours per day 7 days a week would make a noticeable difference in my electric bill as it does run quite hot. Since my listening room is 9' underground, it doesn't take much in the way of heating or cooling in order to keep the temperature moderate year round and I never worry about the heat load the amp presents to the room because of that. It's always pleasant temperature-wise to me.
 

rockitman

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I sometimes leave my XS 150's on over night, but generally turn them off. I turn them on the next day about 2 hours prior to listening. They seem to be at the optimal bias temperature by then. They are probably ready to listen to after an hour from cold start.
 

Bruce B

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When I had the XA-160's, they ran hotter than the XA.5's I made sure to have AC in the studio and I certainly don't regret it.
 
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budda

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Pass Labs XA 160.5 and XP 30 :)
 

Audioseduction

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Pass Labs XA 160.5 and XP 20
 

BlueFox

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Pass X600.5, and XP-20. Listening right now to Shostakovich string quartets, and love it.
 

microstrip

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Pass X600.5, and XP-20. Listening right now to Shostakovich string quartets, and love it.

Borodin String Quartet on EMI?
 

Frank750

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MylesBAstor

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Frank750

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Like Kevin's bases under the amps! Just ordered the Ohio Class XL+2 for under the soon to be arriving Classic Direct! :)

The base is great Myles, you'll love it.
 

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MylesBAstor

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The base is great Myles, you'll love it.

Thanks, have the VR Isobases at present. Kevin says this provides 4+ the isolation of the VRs. Am thinking of one of the Ohio Class for under the preamp now but they're really expensive :(
 

PeterA

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XA160.5 on a preloaded (ballasted) Vibraplane which sits on a DIY birch ply stand to match Magico Mini2 aesthetic:

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XOno and XP-20 on Townshend Seismic Sinks in a custom built DIY rack:
Hope to upgrade someday to the XP-25 and XP-30.
(Love the SME/Pass combo, Frank :b)

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Frank750

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Frank, I'd love to know your initial impressions of the XS Pre versus the XP30. Care to share?

It's a little early, about 67 hours but the first word that comes to mind is more. Dynamics, slam, weight, detail, even at this stage in the break in it's obvious and I can't stop listening. I've been at it 7 straight hours today. It was very good out of the box, in fact I was up until 2:30am the night it was delivered. Day 2 was a little rough but it has been getting better and better since.
 

Sammy T

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We all want to see the inside of the XS Preamp . Frank750 , have you looked yet?
 

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