Myles and Peter do you use Last Tape Preservative and or Last Head treatment for your tape and R2R
No I don't As a rule of thumb, I stay away from anything that I can't remove! That even goes for trying that silver contact pastes!
Myles and Peter do you use Last Tape Preservative and or Last Head treatment for your tape and R2R
Exactly, that was my conclusion back in the '80s as well... It felt like LAST was some sort of teflon coating or equivalent, which may well extend stylus life, but otherwise was detrimental to the sound. I believe back then it was claimed that you have to play the records a few times after LASTing in order to get them to sound better, or something like that... Never touched that stuff since then...
Hi All,
Based upon what I am hearing here, I don't think any of you have actually tried Last for vinyl. Some points to ponder:
1. Last does not leave a residue on the vinyl.
2. Last chemically combines with the vinyl and leaves nothing behind. There is nothing to remove.
3. Last strengthens the vinyl at the microscopic level and inhibits the vinyl from deforming when the stylus passes by.
Those that claim to hear a degradation from Last are mistaking the effect. Imagine a record made from steel. When played, the steel would not deform from the pressure placed on the stylus from the groove. A Lasted groove behaves in a similar way. The vinyl deforms less. Thus what you are claiming to be improved sound from an un-Lasted groove is actually the sound of a deformed groove. Is this HI Fi sound or a preference for distortion?? I say distortion.
What I am hearing is a set of misinformed opinions. This happens often in hi fi but I would thought this group would be beyond it. I won't argue with your tastes. I will argue vigorously with misinformed and non-techinical babbly-goop.
And, Myles, I have a important question for you. Every professional reviewer I have been around, and living in Santa Fe I have been around many, do not pay for their equipment. Instead, they get what they want from companies who are anxious to see their name in print as often as possible. Do you pay for your own equipment out of your pocket? If not, then your view of the audiophile dollar is much different than mine where I see the money disappear from my bank account with every purchase.
Sparky
Hi All,
Based upon what I am hearing here, I don't think any of you have actually tried Last for vinyl. Some points to ponder:
1. Last does not leave a residue on the vinyl.
2. Last chemically combines with the vinyl and leaves nothing behind. There is nothing to remove.
3. Last strengthens the vinyl at the microscopic level and inhibits the vinyl from deforming when the stylus passes by.
Those that claim to hear a degradation from Last are mistaking the effect. Imagine a record made from steel. When played, the steel would not deform from the pressure placed on the stylus from the groove. A Lasted groove behaves in a similar way. The vinyl deforms less. Thus what you are claiming to be improved sound from an un-Lasted groove is actually the sound of a deformed groove. Is this HI Fi sound or a preference for distortion?? I say distortion.
What I am hearing is a set of misinformed opinions. This happens often in hi fi but I would thought this group would be beyond it. I won't argue with your tastes. I will argue vigorously with misinformed and non-techinical babbly-goop.
And, Myles, I have a important question for you. Every professional reviewer I have been around, and living in Santa Fe I have been around many, do not pay for their equipment. Instead, they get what they want from companies who are anxious to see their name in print as often as possible. Do you pay for your own equipment out of your pocket? If not, then your view of the audiophile dollar is much different than mine where I see the money disappear from my bank account with every purchase.
Sparky
Sparky: I don't get it. You always take on this angry tone when anyone here dares to disagree with you. I must admit though you give me pause to chuckle accusing me of never having listened to LAST when I wrote the second piece on RCF in press (after Enid's) and have always covered record Rxs.
I'm not sure what you expect out of the second OT note save for a fight. But I'll save you the time and energy. For the record: PFO's requires all reviewers to disclose which pieces are or aren't owned in their reference system. You can see that on the PFO website. Next, a form must be submitted by all staff reviewers requesting a piece of gear for review and the review request must be approved by the editors. Then the gear can be tracked. And I know this will just break your heart. I do own all the gear in my reference system including my ML speaker, cj electronics, turntable, Avid,Doshi, Allnic and cj phono sections (yes have to get rid of some of them), Altis and Sony digital, two cartridges, Silver Circle PLC, cables, Kubala-Sosna cables (KS doesn't give out long term loans), platforms, cones, RCF, etc. Oh and of course I own my modded tape decks and 10K LPs and around 100 tapes. Down to the AC receptacles and dedicated lines in the wall. Lock, stock and barrel paid for.
There it is.
So if you think it improves, your LPs great Sparky. Enjoy it. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, even if its wrong.
Nope, just isopropyl alcohol... and will not use any alcohol on the stylus because it affects the glue that keeps the diamond in place.
I have bought some used LP's treated with last and do have stylast treatment. I will not treat my new vinyl with it and have tried stylast. I do not believe these treatments can make a stylus last 5000 hours. I don't believe in record coatings either or worse yet, chemically altering the vinyl. If it were a true revolution, I think everyone would be using it. This is only my opinion of course.
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