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DaveyF

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My feelings aren't hurt. The tweeters sound great to me. I am providing a public service to disclose and discredit your misinformation....such as this ultrasonic ring at 15K makes a real audible difference in the sound with regard to the context of real music. Do you have a bit of tinnitus possibly ? another form of ringing ?
I wish I could count how many different threads here you go out of your to ring Wilson's bell. It's almost obsessive. I'm done. you get the last gasp. Cheerio !

Christian, is there no reason that DW changed to the silk domes? Did he do this because they are a step backwards? Have you listened to the new drivers? A public service (?) would be to stop yammering and go and listen to the new drivers and then come back with an educated unbiased opinion...otherwise I do get the last gasp.
 

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Christian, is there no reason that DW changed to the silk domes? Did he do this because they are a step backwards? Have you listened to the new drivers? A public service (?) would be to stop yammering and go and listen to the new drivers and then come back with an educated unbiased opinion...otherwise I do get the last gasp.

who's talking XLF ? Of course it is better than my speaker. The point is, you try to poison the actual sound quality performance of any model prior that had the metal dome. I had the W/P 8...I never heard the ring. If Wilson's don't suit you, fine...Just layoff the BS on a speaker you have never owned. Over and out.
 

DaveyF

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who's talking XLF ? Of course it is better than my speaker. The point is, you try to poison the actual sound quality performance of any model prior that had the metal dome. I had the W/P 8...I never heard the ring. If Wilson's don't suit you, fine...Just layoff the BS on a speaker you have never owned. Over and out.
Actually, i think you could even listen to the Alexia. Same tweeter as the XLF. BUT you are so jaded that I can see you wouldn't even give it a chance. Too bad, your loss.
 

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Actually, i think you could even listen to the Alexia. Same tweeter as the XLF. BUT you are so jaded that I can see you wouldn't even give it a chance. Too bad, your loss.

My Alexia's are so much better in the top end than my past Wilsons. It's a whole new ballgame.

"Almost midnight and I'm still in the studio working on the Wilson DSD files. You're in for a treat!"
 

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Actually, i think you could even listen to the Alexia. Same tweeter as the XLF. BUT you are so jaded that I can see you wouldn't even give it a chance. Too bad, your loss.
Alexia doesn't have the scale of X-2.2. And don't forget 94 vs 90 db efficient. My treble is fine. I bet better than yours. ;) I could trade even steven with my 3 year remaining warranty. Ain't gonna happen.
 
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Davey has BAT ears :D which makes it kinda difficult , you must love these then the diamonds :
About the most extended response on the market :

http://www.accuton.de/drivers/detail.php?driver=22&matID=1&appID=1

scroll down for freq response , ive tested quite a few tweeters one of them a 20 mm diamond , solely specs dont tell the whole story , and dismissing a speaker for a couple db break up in the audioband , is very shortsighted


DSC_0439 by andromeda61, on Flickr
 

DaveyF

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Davey has BAT ears :D which makes it kinda difficult , you must love these then the diamonds :
About the most extended response on the market :

http://www.accuton.de/drivers/detail.php?driver=22&matID=1&appID=1

scroll down for freq response , ive tested quite a few tweeters one of them a 20 mm daimond


DSC_0439 by andromeda61, on Flickr


I've heard the diamond drivers. Albeit,in a speaker that was VERY sterile. I suspect they have great potential. Would like to hear them properly implemented.
 

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Still sterile if you ask me , been there done that !!
And sound a bit harsh when driven hard , what i didnt expect
I've heard the diamond drivers. Albeit,in a speaker that was VERY sterile. I suspect they have great potential. Would like to hear them properly implemented.
 

DaveyF

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Still sterile if you ask me , been there done that !!
And sound a bit harsh when driven hard , what i didnt expect
I was under the impression that the cabinet was to blame more than the driver, at least in the speaker that I heard. They did sound harsh and sterile, BUT I wonder if that would be the case in a more suitable cabinet?
Did you experiment with different cabinet designs?
 

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No i only used them with a very strong kind of mdf (more glue added ) but very heavily braced .
My next design will be of more exotic material , but i have not the impression the diamond tw will somehow have a different character in those more non resonant designs .
They are quite expensive to use and i rather use the money elsewhere
 

DaveyF

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No i only used them with a very strong kind of mdf (more glue added ) but very heavily braced .
My next design will be of more exotic material , but i have not the impression the diamond tw will somehow have a different character in those more non resonant designs .
They are quite expensive to use and i rather use the money elsewhere

I heard them in a a cabinet that was all Aluminum with extensive bracing and therefore supposedly completely non resonant. Perhaps, the diamond drivers are too "hard" to be anything BUT sterile and harsh.
 

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I heard them in a a cabinet that was all Aluminum with extensive bracing and therefore supposedly completely non resonant. Perhaps, the diamond drivers are too "hard" to be anything BUT sterile and harsh.

Did I hear "Magico"? :D
 

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No Fernando, they were NOT Magico's. I don't believe Magico's use the diamond driver's. These speakers were the Polymer Audio Tech's.

You are right DaveyF....no precious stones on Magico. Thanks.
 

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Regarding audio.

* I believe that's the main reason why there are less women than men in this hobby.
...Women don't like to talk about audio; they prefer listening instead, strictly.
...And just an iPad (iPod) or a Bose radio is mighty fine for the vast majority of them.
...And still, they hear better than us!

..my wife would argue that they LISTEN better than us
 

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my wife first & seek her opinion

Anything else I listen to my wife first & seek her opinion. If engineering, construction, math, maps, directions >>> I am right 100% of the time.
 

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