DS Audio Grand Master + EMM Labs DS-EQ1
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My frame of reference is unfair to conventionally marketed loudspeakers.
I just remember looking it up at the time, and thinking are these speakers really any better than my built to my spec Apogee Duettas?
I was biased towards this Zellaton design, at least I think so, because of the drivers, that, in my opinion, show some of the positive traits of a well built planar magnetic speaker.
So, no, I don't remember that exact cost but I know it is multiples more than my Duettas cost.
My speakers aren't really commercial offerings. More an expression of curiosity of what can be achieved if you make a pair of Apogees to a level of quality far better the OEM ever achieved.
I felt that the DS Audio cartridge was exposed by the Zellaton's as an entity that displayed less apparent distortion than traditional MC designs. In other words, the speakers showed just how good the analogue front end was.
What that is actually worth to someone can only be quantified by their own experience and beliefs.
Well, it still does matter. One of the most interesting and beautiful things in the audio world is how people can perceive the same things differently and still be right at the same time. Gathering and understanding all the perspectives is the key in the pursuit of success, I believe. You actually wrote it by yourself:
and I would just add - "and it's great to observe the variety of them"
Thank you for sharing your thoughts
In the DS AUDIO Grand Master Top Of The Line Optical Phono Cartridge Review by Ken Kessler and Paul Miller in ”HiFi News” Magazine (January 2021) a +4.3dB boost at 20Hz is reported.
I do not love that boost. 20kHz is high up there, but maybe this boost is responsible for some of the seeming transparency and open-ness of the sound of the Grand Master?
I do not love that boost. 20kHz is high up there, but maybe this boost is responsible for some of the seeming transparency and open-ness of the sound of the Grand Master?
I understand exactly how you feel ,this is a game changer. My impression is everything is transparent and Dynamic without being exaggerated .
Either it sounds less good than previously thought ( experienced ) or the visual aid ( frequency response chart ) is less important than we think.
Hi Ron, et al. I’m on the verge of purchasing an Airtight Opus 1. However, one can’t help be intrigued by the enthusiasm the Grand Master has generated across some of the biggest analog enthusiasts in the audiophile community. By any chance do you now have the Grand Master in your system and have had the opportunity to grow more familiar with its sonic character and performance vs other flagship cartridges you own, especially the Opus 1? If so, I’d be grateful for your (or others’) comparison and whether you’d proclaim one a winner or both equally superb but just different. Thx again
Dear battles,
No, unfortunately, my stereo system is still many months away from being set up. I have a dear friend who thinks it's four years away from being set up.
I am still planning to purchase an Opus 1 for a Bergmann Odin tonearm.
I have no present plans to purchase a DS Audio. I want to learn the listening impressions of other audiophiles whose ears I trust and listening preferences I understand to confirm or dispute my initial impressions of the DS Audio.
I want to listen again to the DS Audio to confirm for myself that it achieves all of the naturalness and musicality of cartridges like the Grado Epoch3 and the ZYX UNIverse Premium and the Opus1. In other words I want to make sure we are retaining what I like about those cartridges while reducing surface noise and improving transparency and channel separation.
No, unfortunately, my stereo system is still many months away from being set up. I have a dear friend who thinks it's four years away from being set up.
I am still planning to purchase an Opus 1 for a Bergmann Odin tonearm.
I have no present plans to purchase a DS Audio. I want to learn the listening impressions of other audiophiles whose ears I trust and listening preferences I understand to confirm or dispute my initial impressions of the DS Audio.
I want to listen again to the DS Audio to confirm for myself that it achieves all of the naturalness and musicality of cartridges like the Grado Epoch3 and the ZYX UNIverse Premium and the Opus1. In other words I want to make sure we are retaining what I like about those cartridges while reducing surface noise and improving transparency and channel separation.
I think he has no confidence in my ability to land this particular plane.
Ron, you've GOT to land the plane. A whole load of passengers, diamonds in the hold, but your fuel is running low...
Thanks Ron…I had concluded from your earlier posts that you were a bit further along in your quest for musical nirvana and this piece of the puzzle had already been decided. However, I understand your desire for a few more data points. Clearly this is a bigger decision than most given the additional hardware required to make the Grand Master sing that likely has a shallow secondary market to the extent you weren’t happy after living with it. Being a known quantity, I think the Opus 1 is the safer decision for me. Thanks again and good luck with landing that plane !
!Ron, following your recommendation and a friend of mine recently bought the Grand Master, he also found it is the best cartridge system in his collection, I ordered a set, Grand Master cartridge and its phonostage.
They will be delivered next week. Looking forward to it. Enclosed a photo of my friend’s Grand Master.
They will be delivered next week. Looking forward to it. Enclosed a photo of my friend’s Grand Master.
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Great! That is very exciting! Congratulations! I will await eagerly your report!
(For the record please know that my very favorable impressions about the Grand Master were "initial impressions," and pending confirmation by others. There was always an open question about ultimate naturalness and "musicality." Please see Posts #43 and #70, above.)
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Exciting news. It will be very interesting to hear what peoples thoughts will be.
I have been using the DS Grand Master for about 4 months. I continue to be amazed about the life it brings to vinyl (really any recording). I only listened to the DS audio phonostage for a short while. It’s bass was remarkable. The Emmlabs DS-EQ1 continues to perform beautifully. It’s amazing value.
I have had mostly music lovers listening for whatever reason. A friend who was a symphony violinist (granted a small symphony) thought it was the most natural reproduction of a violin he had ever heard.
Best of luck with the new purchases.
I have been using the DS Grand Master for about 4 months. I continue to be amazed about the life it brings to vinyl (really any recording). I only listened to the DS audio phonostage for a short while. It’s bass was remarkable. The Emmlabs DS-EQ1 continues to perform beautifully. It’s amazing value.
I have had mostly music lovers listening for whatever reason. A friend who was a symphony violinist (granted a small symphony) thought it was the most natural reproduction of a violin he had ever heard.
Best of luck with the new purchases.
Just out of curiosity Ron,
why is there such a significant disparity between the period you think you'd need to set up your system and what your friend suggests. A few months versus four years. Are you an incorrigible optimist?
I am not at all an incorrigible optimist. I actually am a glass is "half empty" kind of person.
Jeff has observed how long it has taken us to get anything done, so he is assuming unforeseen delays will continue far into the future.
Jeff has observed how long it has taken us to get anything done, so he is assuming unforeseen delays will continue far into the future.
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