Do rich people work harder?

[FrantzM]

If so and the number includes fully loaded cost all his election year travel, Mosin quote "Don't forget about our wonderful President who spent $1,400,000,000 of taxpayer money on entertainment and vacations for himself and his immediate family last year." is of course total BS.

I suppose if it were a different POTUS ... He/She would fly coach and cost the taxpayers much less ...

 

[JackD201]

If so and the number includes fully loaded cost all his election year travel, Mosin quote "Don't forget about our wonderful President who spent $1,400,000,000 of taxpayer money on entertainment and vacations for himself and his immediate family last year." is of course total BS.

Yes the number apparently isn't just for vacations. That's what I was saying.

This is the tricky part. Election year or not, the guy had to be transported in the most secure way since he was the President. It's been the same for every prez seeking reelection before him. Is it an unfair advantage? Maybe it is, well, it really is but whatcha gonna do?

Now if he goes on vacation, which every working man has a right to, he still needs to be transported in the most secure way possible. Now I don't know what that slice of the 1.4B is but surely it ain't cheap. It is also necessary IMO.

The problem with being impartial is both sides seem to take you for being on the other side and that's what I am, impartial.

 

[JackD201]

I suppose if it were a different POTUS ... He/She would fly coach and cost the taxpayers much less ...

A terrorist's wet dream.

 

[Andre Marc]

Yes the number apparently isn't just for vacations. That's what I was saying.

This is the tricky part. Election year or not, the guy had to be transported in the most secure way since he was the President. It's been the same for every prez seeking reelection before him. Is it an unfair advantage? Maybe it is, well, it really is but whatcha gonna do?

Now if he goes on vacation, which every working man has a right to, he still needs to be transported in the most secure way possible. Now I don't know what that slice of the 1.4B is but surely it ain't cheap. It is also necessary IMO.

The problem with being impartial is both sides seem to take you for being on the other side and that's what I am, impartial.

The annoying thing is when Fox News distorts the numbers, and selectively quotes from an extreme Right Wingers unsubstantiated book,
and then someone starts posting it all over the internet with zero regard for double checking the facts, as if it is the truth.

So it goes from "1.4 B spent on transporting the President", to "President Costs Tax Payers 1.4 B for Vacations."

Enough is enough.

 

[edorr]

Yes the number apparently isn't just for vacations. That's what I was saying.

This is the tricky part. Election year or not, the guy had to be transported in the most secure way since he was the President. It's been the same for every prez seeking reelection before him. Is it an unfair advantage? Maybe it is, well, it really is but whatcha gonna do?

Now if he goes on vacation, which every working man has a right to, he still needs to be transported in the most secure way possible. Now I don't know what that slice of the 1.4B is but surely it ain't cheap. It is also necessary IMO.

The problem with being impartial is both sides seem to take you for being on the other side and that's what I am, impartial.

The 1.4 million overhead for security for two weeks in Hawaii strikes me as in the ballpark and an imminently reasonable number. Only Rush Limbaugh types get worked up over that.

 

[GaryProtein]

I would never get involved in a politcal discussion pointing fingers because I have far too much integrity to do that, but this bashes EVERYBODY equally!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvOaO4f_m38

 

[JackD201]

I'll let the person(s) you are referring to speak for themselves.

Getting back on topic, how does one define work? Owners, particularly key men/women, work 24/7. If they were lawyers even time spent sleeping can be considered billable hours.

There is a truism that goes you only get really rich when you sell your business. Going public falls under this. Sitting on a pile of cash is still the best measure. The bankers in the fancy suits are just their intermediaries. The really rich build and sell or buy, build up and sell. Those that retire to enjoy the fruits may not work so much, those that continue building do.

Reminds me of the Chris Rock joke about Shaq and Dr. Buss.

 

[FrantzM]

I'll let the person(s) you are referring to speak for themselves.

Getting back on topic, how does one define work? Owners, particularly key men/women, work 24/7. If they were lawyers even time spent sleeping can be considered billable hours.

There is a truism that goes you only get really rich when you sell your business. Going public falls under this. Sitting on a pile of cash is still the best measure. The bankers in the fancy suits are just their intermediaries. The really rich build and sell or buy, build up and sell. Those that retire to enjoy the fruits may not work so much, those that continue building do.

Reminds me of the Chris Rock joke about Shaq and Dr. Buss.

Mark Cuban could be the poster child for those ... Unless traveling with his team and screaming at NBA referees could be construed as work

 

[Andre Marc]

Mark Cuban could be the poster child for those ... Unless traveling with his team and screaming at NBA referees could be construed as work

The remarkable thing about Mark Cuban is that he is ordinary in every conceivable way. NOT a bright guy.

He is just Donald Trump's little retarded brother.

 

[JackD201]

The 1.4 million overhead for security for two weeks in Hawaii strikes me as in the ballpark and an imminently reasonable number. Only Rush Limbaugh types get worked up over that.

I really am curious what that would cost. Airforce One is no ordinary 747 but even if one were to charter one it would be astronomical. Then there's the AWAC and fighter escorts, maybe a tanker for the escorts too. Hotel for the first family AND x number of secret service men, all their meals so on and so forth. When I was a congressman, I had a security detail of exactly one person who rode shotgun. Nobody was remotely pissed off at me so I didn't need him but higher ups were insistent I had at least one just in case I came across a stray crazy or something. Having just one was costly already.

 

[JackD201]

Mark Cuban could be the poster child for those ... Unless traveling with his team and screaming at NBA referees could be construed as work

By his definition YES

 

[Phelonious Ponk]

I must be unambitious. Give me a million with the taxes paid on it and my lifestyle would barely change. But I would never spend another moment doing anything I didn't choose to do.

Tim

 

[JackD201]

Building businesses is risky but also fun and rewarding on many levels other than the monetary. One of my most memorable experiences was becoming a business owner after college and signing the first set of payroll checks for our employees. Knowing that we created jobs was extremely fulfilling.

 

[FrantzM]

Building businesses is risky but also fun and rewarding on many levels other than the monetary. One of my most memorable experiences was becoming a business owner after college and signing the first set of payroll checks for our employees. Knowing that we created jobs was extremely fulfilling.

I can relate to that but that wasn't right after college .. It is fulfilling ... Very much so

 

[NorthStar]

Ahh...didn't realize you were retired. That explains much. I hope to squeeze by on very little new money someday myself. Someplace small, close to the mountains. With much lower property taxes. Good luck with the amp repair. There are guys out there who do a pretty good business restoring/repairing vintage tube gear.

Tim

---- That, right there mister! :b

* You're rich, you work for yourself, and at your own leisurable paste (rhythm).
You do only the things you love to do, and in peace & comfort, with natural views and sounds.
Plus, everything that surrounds you work with you and for you.

Money is not part of the equation no more; material life is disappearing fast, and you start appreciating real life's values. ...And you become your own creator, master of your destiny. ...And you truly know what freedom means now, and independence, and taking control of your own life.
You don't depends on nobody else no more.

That's what working hard and being rich truly means. ...And your mind is much clearer too, with a much stronger spirit and self-assurance.

And you become more knowledgeable on things that truly counts.

You're already on your way Tim. :b

 

[asindc]

No.

 

[rugyboogie]

Yes they do.

 

[andromedaaudio]

First i would say , rich people work smarter , in holland there is a saying , you ll never get rich using your hands .

A very good acquaintance of mine is an attorney who represents the the super rich in Orange County. He said
in his opinion wealthy people work much harder...an average of 60-80 hours a week, while middle class people work
"only" 40 hours a week.

Any thoughts?