Most of the time the energy stored in the capacitors of the amplifier is enough to destroy the panel. Quad ESL63 electrostatics had a crowbar arrangement with a thyristor that sometimes fused the output transistors of the offending amplifier ...
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Most of the time the energy stored in the capacitors of the amplifier is enough to destroy the panel. Quad ESL63 electrostatics had a crowbar arrangement with a thyristor that sometimes fused the output transistors of the offending amplifier ...
This forum always seems divided by those who think all audio/setup/synergy/room conundrums have a simple solution, and if that solution doesn’t work, try another.
And those who chime in with words of wisdom. Thanks Micro.
The way forward here would be home trial of said Graz Duettas, with a SS amp like Parasound to a/b v my NATs.
And those who chime in with words of wisdom. Thanks Micro.
The way forward here would be home trial of said Graz Duettas, with a SS amp like Parasound to a/b v my NATs.
That is very interesting! Are you sure it was not a Genesis 200? (Infinity made the Betas but I not recall Infinity making a Genesis 200 type of system.)
What amps would you today want to try on that speaker system?
Quad ESL63 electrostatics had a crowbar arrangement with a thyristor that sometimes fused the output transistors of the offending amplifier ...
But we dont wan't glass parts of a fused tube sticking somewhere insinde Rons body do we?
Via NAT's website "high capacitance in power supply resulting to over 500joules of energy storage"
Thats enough to fry a ribbon
Well I tripped on my carpet, landed thigh down on my Nat SET and ended up needing minor surgery to remove multiple shards of 211 tube from my leg.
No ****!
So if Ron falls foul of this, I can say I was there first.
No ****!
So if Ron falls foul of this, I can say I was there first.
Two months before I started packing for my move, Jan 2016.
Peter was en route from Somerset to London with a Magnetostat for demo.
I woke up to go over and put my tube amps on, made a call, went over to adjust the volume, and <WHOOPS!> took a little dive into
my amp.
Demo aborted, but Peter charitably took pity on me, and carted the amp off to fix it.
Peter was en route from Somerset to London with a Magnetostat for demo.
I woke up to go over and put my tube amps on, made a call, went over to adjust the volume, and <WHOOPS!> took a little dive into
my amp.
Demo aborted, but Peter charitably took pity on me, and carted the amp off to fix it.
True story: When measured SPL of my Acoustats the level was only down 1db compared to the immediate ftint of the speaker. That was one channel driven. In a real room there is very little drop off with distance for a large planar linesource.
You can take the one meter SPL to hold steady out to 3-4 meters I have found (my listening position was 3.5 meters). Big Kronzillas drove them beautifully and even the VA350 did a cracking job.
You are right Ron, Genesis made the 200. Infinity made Betas (I owned a set), Gammas, Deltas, Sigmas, Epsilons and Omegas as well as the mighty IRS V and the 4 box RS I, IIB, 4.5 etc.
Yes it’s interesting how panels load a room differently to cones
Cones tend to drop off at the square of the distance
Panels in a linear relationship
I placed my CLX in the same position as the morel, which required lamm M2.2 to fill the room, and still clipped
The panels are much louder
Bass fills room much more evenly
Mine is a largish room 6 m by 13m, with 2.3 m ceilings
Panels are 3 metres from front wall
I listen 11 ft from panels
But yesterday I was standing at the rear of the room, and if anything I think the sound might have been better
I was listening to the gun battle from Billy the Kid
To describe the bass thwacks as jaw dropping and fast was an understatement
The Goldmund’s are amazing with the CLX! , I have never got them to clip, even when playing ear popping loud..
Have you ever measured the base response of your CLX's in your room awsmone? True....that with great amplification the quality of the base produced by the CLX's can be absolutely Stellar.
Does anyone know of an upgrade to the DB-25 cable the NAT Magnetic uses between the preamp and the power supply? Would any DB-25 work or would it have to be a specially configured cable?
Thanks!
Thanks!
should have a magnetic soon, and if the cable can be upgraded, I am the guy to do it. will let you know.. What have you compared your Magnetic to ? Kind of stuck on whether to go Magnetic or Magnetostat ..Does anyone know of an upgrade to the DB-25 cable the NAT Magnetic uses between the preamp and the power supply? Would any DB-25 work or would it have to be a specially configured cable?
Thanks!
Cheers
I purchased a Tubulus Argentus DB-25 Cable V2 from highendcableshop.com in April of this year. I think it was about $700. It works very well with the Magnetic.
Hiya, v interesting. My DB-25 is a pair of cables, male to female. Is this how the Tubulus is configured?
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