Ked,
Will you consider Spectron Musician? They claim their amps are stable at 0.1 ohms. Maybe not your taste as they are kind of class D. But worth considering.
Sure Christoph
I'm a dedicated tubes man
NATs SE2SE 70W/ch 211s using 1948 NOS GEs, NATs Utopia 2-box tubed pre
But I have been entranced by SS, as I said in prev post, 15W Bakoon Class A on Liszts
My issue is that it's not just a simple case of finding the amp that wks on the Scinnies
They're even more demanding than the Divas I heard, and Duettas
And the Divas I heard that were being thrashed by Spectral SS were audibly afflicted by glare and greyness, the worst aspects of a non tube sound
So, it's not just that I'd have to move fully to SS (which Im more ok w than a few months ago when I would argue w Ked I would rather die than ditch the NATs), it's that very few SS amps can satisfy the Scinnies, ramping up the complexity of getting the synergy right
Can we please have a list of amps that are tried and tested good sounding and more than powerful enough to mate w Apogees, Scinnies esp?
Will keep things on the simmer re the Rowen
As I've said, I'm really unsure how practical it is to travel to a max of 2-3 Scinnie installs, buy on the promise that there will be an amp synergy that works, and then take a punt on something like the Rowen that on paper should be a perfect match
As we know, the only paper that is reliable in our hobby is the credit card slip
I cannot think of any other luxury sector purchase where one would do things this way
I guess I don't have Ked's pioneering spirit
Ked, sorry to crash yr party
You proudly proclaim Scinnies the best thing since unsliced wholemeal bread, and I stomp about peddling the same skepticism on how to hear them and amp synergy concerns
Maybe I'll get a chance to hear them at Christoph's or up North at Kim's
I guess if they leave an indelible impression on me, the complexities of ownership will disappear and I'll rave about how perfect they are, as you're currently doing
Ked, was just chatting to Bill, and he was suggesting the Electrocompaniet Nemo as a contender
How would yr amp research go?
Get the Scinnies in and get base level amplification just good enough to go? Then formulate a shortlist of amps which on paper should work w the 1 Ohm demands that you travel to hear in different situations and different systems? And get one or two that sound consistently good across the board w analog and digital, different spkr loads, diff room acoustics presentations?
And then if one comes out as a consistent high performer whatever the demands, and is affordable, buy that one w a reasonable degree of confidence the Scinnies won't faze it?
It's a date TBD
Thanks for the offer, and from Christoph too
My work diary really precludes me from too much travel atm, as I try to get a clinic off the ground from home, do the legwork re local contacts, and my additional travel for main business
I would v much like to do a little European tour to take in Holland w the PTP Solid 12 and Primary Control Kinea tts, Italy for the Torqueo tt, Christoph and you for Scinnies and horns, and the bespoke horns Ked is smitten by
Fwiw, this would be more useful for me than 3 days at Munich show
Rowens with Apogee Synergy (the latter day Scintilla) did not sound good in London when it was demoed. Thin and harsh.
The guy who review the Analysis Audio loved the Spectron - think he liked it more than his VTL because it had more power, and did not think it gave up anything on other factors.
The guy who review the Analysis Audio loved the Spectron - think he liked it more than his VTL because it had more power, and did not think it gave up anything on other factors.
If you come to Christoph's then you should stop by my place as well...only a bit over an hour away and hear some SET/horn action. Same for you Norman or Ked if/when you return again.
The Analysis guy makes the Arion amps (hybrid tube/class D), no?
Yes I don't like them
Hey Bonzo,
How about something with clipping power into 8 ohms reaching 586.5W at 1% THD (producing 29W in Class A), 1154W available into 4 ohms, 2255W into 2 ohms, and no less than 4.2kW into 1 ohm (equivalent to an output current of 64.7A), retailing for $9K US (though second-hand examples can be had for much less)...
Interested?
853guy
What is this, class A?
Well, yes, but only for the first 29W at 8ohms. Given the Scintillas won't ever know what 8 ohms is like, it's probable you'll rarely be in Class A, but then, most other amps will struggle to stay in Class A at 1 ohm regardless (unless you spend Boulder money).
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