Sully

[Steve Williams]

Saw this today with my family. We all know the story but this movie encompasses the rest of the story as Sully and his co-pilot are investigated by the NTSB as the computer simulations suggested he had time to land the plane at La Guardia or in New Jersey whereas Sully maintained that wasn't the case as both engines had failed due to birds. The NTSB stated that his left engine was still functional and had thrust to achieve the landing. Sully maintained he didn't. It wasn't until the investigation with flight simulations that proved Sully correct and he was exonerated.

Not only do we all remember this story but the heroics of this one man to land safely in the Hudson and not lose one of the 155 souls on board but for me it was somewhat more memorable as I was living in Danville in Northern California at the time. Sully also lived in Danville, in fact less than 2 miles from where I lived. I remember driving by his house only to see all of the news trucks parked outside

The movie was a short 90 minutes but well told by way of flash backs

Tom Hanks once again proves him self to be a chameleon as he played this role. He lost a lot of weight and truly looked like Sully who is seen at the end of the movie in the rolling credits. He remains IMO one of the best actors in Hollywood today

Definitely worth seeing.Good but not great

 

[TBone]

computer simulations suggested he had time to land the plane at La Guardia or in New Jersey whereas Sully maintained that wasn't the case as both engines had failed due to birds.

Clint / Hollywood often mixes fact with entertainment value and creative license.

NTSB report ...
http://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/AAR1003.pdf

"Simulation flights were run to determine whether the accident flight could have landed successfully at LGA or TEB following the bird strike. The simulations demonstrated that, to accomplish a successful flight to either airport, the airplane would have to have been turned toward the airport immediately after the bird strike. The immediate turn did not reflect or account for real-world considerations, such as the time delay required to recognize the extent of the engine thrust loss and decide on a course of action. The one simulator flight that took into account real-world considerations (a return to LGA runway 13 was attempted after a 35-second delay) was not successful. Therefore, the NTSB concludes that the captain’s decision to ditch on the Hudson River rather than attempting to land at an airport provided the highest probability that the accident would be survivable."

 

[Steve Williams]

Clint / Hollywood often mixes fact with entertainment value and creative license.

NTSB report ...
http://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/AAR1003.pdf

"Simulation flights were run to determine whether the accident flight could have landed successfully at LGA or TEB following the bird strike. The simulations demonstrated that, to accomplish a successful flight to either airport, the airplane would have to have been turned toward the airport immediately after the bird strike. The immediate turn did not reflect or account for real-world considerations, such as the time delay required to recognize the extent of the engine thrust loss and decide on a course of action. The one simulator flight that took into account real-world considerations (a return to LGA runway 13 was attempted after a 35-second delay) was not successful. Therefore, the NTSB concludes that the captain’s decision to ditch on the Hudson River rather than attempting to land at an airport provided the highest probability that the accident would be survivable."

That was all in the movie


They added 35 seconds to the simulator to account for those 13 attempts and then had them run the simulator again which clearly showed that Sully made the correct decision. Finally they recovered the left engine from the river and it showed that the engine was completely wrecked and agin corroborated Sully's decision.

 

[Joe Whip]

Will be seeing it this weekend and looking forward to hearing the score by the Tierney Sutton Band. Seems Clint needed a villain of sorts and misrepresented the actions of the NTSB in the investigation, making them out to be more antagonistic than they really were. This is not the NTSB as described by Sully in his book. Creative license to make a movie rather than a documentary. It is a movie after all.

 

[Steve Williams]

Will be seeing it this weekend and looking forward to hearing the score by the Tierney Sutton Band. Seems Clint needed a villain of sorts and misrepresented the actions of the NTSB in the investigation, making them out to be more antagonistic than they really were. This is not the NTSB as described by Sully in his book. Creative license to make a movie rather than a documentary. It is a movie after all.

It was IMO a well told story in 90 minutes and yes the NTSB came across from the beginning as antagonistic

 

[WLVCA]

Tom Hanks and Sully were on the Jimmy Kimmel show together last night. Interesting interview and a hilarious spoof of a Tom Hanks life story movie starring Sully as Tom Hanks. Apparently the two of them became friends while working on the movie.

We plan on seeing this movie. Should be a good one.

 

[jfrech]

Thanks for posting....I plan on seeing this movie also...

 

[FrantzM]

Will go see it too as soon as I land in the USA

Concerning the NTSB being antagonistic, that is their job to be so, not to be congratulatory. They are a Safety Board and need to make sure that pilots don't go playing Heroes without analyzing all the facts ... from what I read this movie is correct on this aspect too ...

 

[TBone]

Will go see it too as soon as I land in the USA

Concerning the NTSB being antagonistic, that is their job to be so, not to be congratulatory. They are a Safety Board and need to make sure that pilots don't go playing Heroes without analyzing all the facts ... from what I read this movie is correct on this aspect too ...

http://qz.com/778011/sully-ntsb-investigators-are-not-happy-about-being-made-the-villains-in-clint-eastwoods-film-starring-tom-hanks-as-chesley-sully-sullenberger/

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/former-ntsb-investigators-have-beef-with-movie-sully/

It's NOT their job to be antagonistic, rather to gather all the facts and report on them accordingly.

And they did just that, the initial NTSB report (not amended) supported the pilots decision to ditch without blame.

Luv Clint, but in typical Hollywood fashion, they often twist facts for fiction/drama. Clint's Million Dollar Baby totally portrayed woman's boxing incorrectly (as if the Nevada State Athletic Commission would allow such behavior) and he still won the Oscar.

 

[FrantzM]

http://qz.com/778011/sully-ntsb-investigators-are-not-happy-about-being-made-the-villains-in-clint-eastwoods-film-starring-tom-hanks-as-chesley-sully-sullenberger/

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/former-ntsb-investigators-have-beef-with-movie-sully/

It's NOT their job to be antagonistic, rather to gather all the facts and report on them accordingly.

And they did just that, the initial NTSB report (not amended) supported the pilots decision to ditch without blame.

Luv Clint, but in typical Hollywood fashion, they often twist facts for fiction/drama. Clint's Million Dollar Baby totally portrayed woman's boxing incorrectly (as if the Nevada State Athletic Commission would allow such behavior) and he still won the Oscar.

Got your points...

 

[WLVCA]

My wife and I saw Sully today. We really enjoyed it, quite well done.

I was not aware that he and the co-pilot had been subjected to such harsh treatment by the NTSB.

Kudos to Clint Eastwood for excellent directing and to Tom Hanks for another great acting job. Those two old pros rarely miss their mark....at least in the movie business.

They had me dabbing a tear or two along the way.

 

[GaryProtein]

I'm looking forward to this movie.

 

[still-one]

My wife and I saw it about a week ago and we both enjoyed it too. I am guessing some small liberties were taken for entertainment purposes since it wasn't billed as a documentary.

 

[Bruce B]

As great a job as Sully did, landing the plane on water and saving all those lives, I saw a documentary about all the OTHER planes that have landed on water, with and without incident. I can't believe how many it has been!
I guess this one gets played up the most because of media/internet coverage.

 

[Steve Williams]

As great a job as Sully did, landing the plane on water and saving all those lives, I saw a documentary about all the OTHER planes that have landed on water, with and without incident. I can't believe how many it has been!
I guess this one gets played up the most because of media/internet coverage.

not really Bruce but rather that there were 155 souls on board with no serious injuries or fatalities

 

[YashN]

Looks like Sully, Don't Breathe and Hell or High Water are three new movies which are good.

 

[Steve Williams]

Hell or High Water is getting Oscar nods

 

[KeithR]

so its good, but not great to most of you? i'll likely pass for now then. the Deepwater Horizon movie has more caught my interest.

 

[Bruce B]

not really Bruce but rather that there were 155 souls on board with no serious injuries or fatalities

Water Landings