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All cable connections are pathways for good and bad. The magnitude is always unique to each environment.
I’d opine if the ground wires don’t carry signal it doesn’t matter. Some people consider the - wire to be ground but it’s not, it’s signal.
I see it more as.
If you have synthetic carpet and static, the cable can be affected.
Its possible some cables could be more or less reactive to vibrations. So is the cable support a dampening device. Or is it lifting the cable off a floor that is vibrating.
Does the support reduce tension or kinks.
My PAP speakers have a crossover you can mount anywhere. When it was attached to the speaker frame of which the light metal frame rattles severly, it was easy to hear the smearing and blurr the physical vibrations imparted into the crossover. So I'm confident vibration can be a factor. Mind you, touching the frame of the speaker you notice severe vibration. Its not like putting you hand on a floor and maybe feeling something when subs are firing onto them.
If you have synthetic carpet and static, the cable can be affected.
Its possible some cables could be more or less reactive to vibrations. So is the cable support a dampening device. Or is it lifting the cable off a floor that is vibrating.
Does the support reduce tension or kinks.
My PAP speakers have a crossover you can mount anywhere. When it was attached to the speaker frame of which the light metal frame rattles severly, it was easy to hear the smearing and blurr the physical vibrations imparted into the crossover. So I'm confident vibration can be a factor. Mind you, touching the frame of the speaker you notice severe vibration. Its not like putting you hand on a floor and maybe feeling something when subs are firing onto them.
Another very good reason to use elevators for cables and cords is, if you have any vibration isolators, one should ideally elevate the cables and cords to eliminate any force they might exert on the iso system. Any external forces degrade the isolation effectiveness considerable. The top must be free to move easily and without contraint.
This is very true with my STST Motus II TT. It has a sprung suspension and a hanging cable will drag on it.
To your overall point, cables dragging off anything can affect the vibration of the equipment itself. I generally see this more with cables on a rack that are hanging. I don't usually see cables on floors putting undo tension on gear. One member has his amps on Herzan stands so his cables are elevated to maintain a very neutral attachment so as to not unduly affect the way the stand reduces vibration.
You can connect an oszilloscope to a metal baking tray suspended above the floor.
Next lower the tray towards the floor.
You will measure and see an increase of noise in the scope.
Some chap here tried that to prove that raising cables from the floor does have a measurable impact.
Not only in mechanical ways.
I would be surprised if this would not affect ground cables.
Next lower the tray towards the floor.
You will measure and see an increase of noise in the scope.
Some chap here tried that to prove that raising cables from the floor does have a measurable impact.
Not only in mechanical ways.
I would be surprised if this would not affect ground cables.
I've got a way to go, but some overly complex installations start with good intentions then erm, go a little awry
Interestingly I have zero speaker hum but do have some transformer hum as quite a lot of linear power supplies and old naim amps can be a little noisy
Interestingly I have zero speaker hum but do have some transformer hum as quite a lot of linear power supplies and old naim amps can be a little noisy
First rule: minimize plugs. Power for a maximum of 8 devices in the moment 6. Thick copper bars distribute evenly to all devices. The two power amps have separate cables. Advantage: I only need 3 wall sockets.
Thats awesome. I built something similar. Its way better than having duplex in the wall.
What is the brand?
I cheated with mine. I have a wire come directly from my panel, out the wall and into the unit. Hard wired. Mine is not a UL installation. If this has a power cord to go to a duplex in the wall, then I see no issues. You could easily hard wire it too.
I also thought about wiring it directly to a wall socket, but I rejected it because it was rather impractical. If you want to clean it or turn it off during a thunderstorm
Its from Makroaudio in germany, unfortunately only available used, no longer in production.
i change to to kaiser ice pure silverplated plugs even the screws are silver plated.
the last background noise is gone. best i have heard so far.
Martin Kaiser Silver-Plated IEC Connector
Martin Kaiser Audiophile Grade IEC Plug in stock at Mains Cables R Us
www.mcru.co.uk
Agree on safty. I figured I can unplug from the equipment.I also thought about wiring it directly to a wall socket, but I rejected it because it was rather impractical. If you want to clean it or turn it off during a thunderstorm
Its from Makroaudio in germany, unfortunately only available used, no longer in production.
i change to to kaiser ice pure silverplated plugs even the screws are silver plated.
the last background noise is gone. best i have heard so far.
Martin Kaiser Silver-Plated IEC Connector
Martin Kaiser Audiophile Grade IEC Plug in stock at Mains Cables R Uswww.mcru.co.uk
I suspect many audiophile would not like it as your not purchasing expensive cords. But I find getting rid of duplex and male cord ends is a big gain.
Nice looking silver plug. Deoxit G100 the ends once a year. Silver oxidizes very fast and is quite heard. Also deoxit the wire to socket screw terminal.
my hot-rodded Ampex ATR-102'/MR-70's built by Andrey Kosobutsky of ATR Service Inc include all power cords hard wired. the only plugs are male into the Furutech NCF outlet on the wall. the tape set up exclusively uses signal, grounding and power cables built by Andrey too which are very fine. i just had a couple of experienced guys from Australia visit who are tape heads (on their way to Munich) and they were blown away by how low the noise was on the tape, and my system overall is very very quiet, but the tape is spooky quiet which allows the music to have a delicacy and presence that is quite unique.
eliminating the IEC connection can really pay dividends in an already low noise environment. but not every system will allow that change to be so fruitful. it's a 'cherry on top' type thing.
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The best system is powercon from neutrik simply better contact, but modified devices are difficult to sell, no matter how well the mods are made. My experience with them.
Allways use 32 Ampere plugs much better then normal powercon plugs and sockets
while i agree that warranty and resale are legit concerns with any mods, in my case Andrey is the 'mod' manufacturer and the reseller of the underlying product. and he supports any of these products he sells in the configuration he sells them in. and the underlying Ampex models were built in 1965-1968 for the Ampex MR-70 and 1976-1985'ish for the Ampex ATR-102. these units are very desirable for the hot-rodded level.
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The noise is strongly influenced by resistors, active elements as tubes or transistors and in the end the tape itself. Humming is more likely to come from capacitors, rectifiers or ground faults. Installing the Powercon socket in the device represents an improvement on IEC sockets. my opion
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