I'm going to put them up for sale here first before I put them on Audiogon. I bought these brand new direct from KEF at full retail. I have the original box and all packing material so they should arrive like new. They have only been used in my dedicated stereo room which is animal free, smoke free, wife free, and maid free. I would like to get $1200 for the pair. The stands I had are already sold which is why I'm selling the speakers now.